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From SEO TikTok to $18M Agencies: How Creators Actually Scale

The Edward Show

Release Date: 02/04/2026

From SEO TikTok to $18M Agencies: How Creators Actually Scale show art From SEO TikTok to $18M Agencies: How Creators Actually Scale

The Edward Show

E945: I’m joined by Matt Diamante and Jake Tlapek for a long-form, unfiltered conversation about what actually happens after you win on social media. All three of us came up through SEO content on TikTok and Instagram. This episode isn’t about going viral - it’s about turning attention into durable businesses, building teams, and deciding what you want to scale next. We cover the real mechanics of growing agencies, removing yourself from delivery, using content as leverage, and how AI and social search are changing SEO in practice - not theory. What we talk about in this episode: - How...

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E945: I’m joined by Matt Diamante and Jake Tlapek for a long-form, unfiltered conversation about what actually happens after you win on social media.

All three of us came up through SEO content on TikTok and Instagram. This episode isn’t about going viral - it’s about turning attention into durable businesses, building teams, and deciding what you want to scale next.

We cover the real mechanics of growing agencies, removing yourself from delivery, using content as leverage, and how AI and social search are changing SEO in practice - not theory.

What we talk about in this episode:
- How agency founders transition from “doing the work” to leading without breaking the business
- The systems required to remove yourself from day-to-day client delivery
- Why many SEO agencies stall before seven figures - and how to break through
- How creators turn daily content into predictable demand and leads
- The difference between chasing views and building lifetime search visibility
- Social SEO: why searchable phrases now outperform traditional hooks
- Posting consistently without burning out or over-polishing
- Editing workflows, tools, and why speed often beats perfection
- Why press releases still work for SEO and AI search visibility
- How AI agents are being used for keyword research, competitive analysis, and content production
- When SEO should be sold alone vs bundled with paid media
- Common SEO mistakes clients make (and why they keep making them)
- The hardest part of scaling a team - and when letting go is the right move
- How creators think about the next phase after audience growth

Who this episode is for:
- Agency owners trying to scale past themselves
- SEOs and marketers using social content to generate demand
- Creators thinking about products, services, or SaaS
- Anyone curious how SEO, AI, and social search are converging

This is a long, candid conversation between people actively operating businesses - not theory, not recycled advice.

If you’re building an agency, using content to grow, or deciding what to scale next, this episode will give you a clearer picture of what actually works.

⭐️ Jake Tlapek on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thewizardmarketing
⭐️ Jake Tlapek on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thewizardmarketing/
⭐️ Jake Tlapek on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thewizardofmarketing
⭐️ Jake Tlapek’s agency - https://finch.com/

⭐️ Matt Diamante on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/heytony.agency/
⭐️ Matt Diamante on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@heytonyagency
⭐️ Matt Diamante on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@heymattdiamante
⭐️ Matt Diamante’s agency - https://heytony.ca/

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00:00 Introduction and Agency Growth
00:20 Transition to Content Creation
00:51 Early Days on TikTok
02:20 The Power of Live Streaming
04:23 SEO Journey and Background
06:09 Daily Posting and Consistency
12:27 Social Media Engagement and Editing Tools
15:14 Effective Hooks and Content Creation
21:00 Social SEO and Long-term Strategies
38:42 Combining SEO with Advertising
41:18 Programmatic SEO Challenges
42:02 Core Pages and Content Strategy
43:33 Common SEO Mistakes
44:49 The Power of Press Releases
50:25 AI and Automation in SEO
54:03 Keyword Research Insights
01:11:32 Future Plans and Business Strategies
01:22:39 Disorganized Conference Experience
01:24:09 Unexpected Viral Video
01:25:19 Gary Vee’s Heartfelt Apology
01:28:02 Collaborating with Other Creators
01:31:00 Scaling and Managing an Agency
01:41:15 Hiring a Business Coach
01:45:37 Firing Difficult Employees
01:51:17 Marketing and SEO Influencers
02:02:46 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

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