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Burn The Map: White Collar Hunger Games with Gabi Barragan

Burn The Map

Release Date: 08/14/2025

Burn The Map: Herding AIs, Dodging Doom, and the New Ethics of Intelligence w/ Dr. Craig Kaplan show art Burn The Map: Herding AIs, Dodging Doom, and the New Ethics of Intelligence w/ Dr. Craig Kaplan

Burn The Map

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Burn The Map: Ask Me Anything with Dan & Gabi show art Burn The Map: Ask Me Anything with Dan & Gabi

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Burn The Map: White Collar Hunger Games with Gabi Barragan show art Burn The Map: White Collar Hunger Games with Gabi Barragan

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In This Episode:  We sit down with Gabi Barragan, Wrench.AI’s Co-Founder and CMO (and, let’s be real, the original “Gabi Filter” for anyone who couldn’t write their way out of a Slack thread). Gabi gets brutally honest about the future of work, why most people are totally unprepared for the AI tidal wave, and the one skillset robots still can’t fake—being a decent human. She and Dan swap war stories about flattening orgs, surviving existential tech dread, and why soft skills are the new power tools. Plus: why your lawyer’s job is toast, how to future-proof your career...

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We sit down with Gabi Barragan, Wrench.AI’s Co-Founder and CMO (and, let’s be real, the original “Gabi Filter” for anyone who couldn’t write their way out of a Slack thread). Gabi gets brutally honest about the future of work, why most people are totally unprepared for the AI tidal wave, and the one skillset robots still can’t fake—being a decent human. She and Dan swap war stories about flattening orgs, surviving existential tech dread, and why soft skills are the new power tools. Plus: why your lawyer’s job is toast, how to future-proof your career (hint: meditation and MMA?), and what happens when your kid can assemble IKEA furniture better than you.


What We Cover:

  • How AI is eating jobs from the bottom and the top—no one’s safe, darling.

  • The not-so-secret power of empathy, adaptability, and problem solving (yes, you still need people skills, even if your boss is a bot).

  • Why “the grind” is overrated, and how the next wave of work might finally let you catch a damn baseball game.

  • The Gabi Filter origin story, and how personalized AI is changing the game for everyone (even the grammar-challenged among us).

  • Real talk on burnout, resilience, and why “sitting is the new smoking”—so get up, walk your dog, and try not to panic.


Guest Bio:Gabi Barragan is Co-Founder and CMO at Wrench.AI, where she’s made a career out of translating chaos into strategy—and occasionally rescuing colleagues from their own bad grammar. With a background in marketing, startups, and the fine art of not losing your mind in a tech tsunami, Gabi is the go-to voice on surviving (and thriving) as AI rewrites the rules of business. When she’s not building the next big thing in personalization, she’s lurking on TikTok, plotting the future of work, and reminding everyone that soft skills aren’t going out of style.

Enjoy! This show was brought to you by Wrench.ai


Follow Dan:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danbaird/
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielabarragan/

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@burnthemappodcast
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People and Organizations Mentioned

  • Dan Baird

  • Gabi Barragan

  • Wrench.AI

  • Random mutual associate with existential dread (don’t worry, Dan won’t out you on air)

  • The “Gabi Filter” (RIP, but not forgotten)


Show Notes

  • Why your job might be toast (and why that’s not the end of the world)

  • The real value of soft skills in an AI-soaked workplace

  • How to avoid burnout when the grind is a myth

  • The future of work: lean, mean, and a little bit weird

  • Lurking, lurking, and more lurking: why sometimes it’s okay to just watch