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Family Dynamics Part 2: Protection and Risk Factors with Dr. Brian Licuanan

Say Goodbye And Imagine!

Release Date: 03/03/2025

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Ep 50 - This week Rose Ann welcomes back Dr. Brian Licuanan to talk about how to stay the course after we put a substance to the side because we're not done after the first 30 days or even the first 90 days. 

We want to be aware of issues that come up, whether we're a family member dealing with a loved one, or if we're the ones that are dealing with the temptation of going back to that substance.

In this episode - 

Support Systems:
Importance of having a strong support system including family, friends, and recovery groups.
Challenges and strategies for maintaining sobriety within a dysfunctional family environment.

Family Dynamics:
The role that family dysfunction can play as a risk factor in recovery.
The need for setting boundaries and involving family in the healing process.

H2O Formula:
Dr. Brian discusses the essential components of recovery: Honesty, Humility, and being Open to direction.
How these elements contribute to both individual healing and family dynamics.

Setbacks in Recovery:
Understanding that setbacks are part of the recovery process and should be viewed as learning opportunities.
Differentiating between relapse and lapse.

The Phases of Recovery:
Dr. Brian outlines the four phases of recovery: ICU (first 30-90 days), Early Recovery (3 months to 1 year), Mid Recovery (1-2 years), and Long-term Recovery (2+ years).
Each phase's unique challenges and how individuals and families can navigate through them.

Role of Spirituality:
The importance of spirituality or having a higher purpose in the recovery process.
How developing a spiritual foundation can aid in maintaining long-term sobriety.

Building Trust:
The concept of "truth over time builds trust" and the significance of consistency and honesty in regaining trust.


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Rose Ann Forte is also the author of The Plans He Has For Me! This book and devotional helps anyone tackle their internal desire to remove alcohol's consistency in their lives and not replace it, but put yourself past the needs that drove you to a damaging habit, even if that wasn't alcohol.


About Dr. Brian Licuanan:
Dr. Brian Licuanan is a renowned psychologist practicing in Southern California, specializing in mental health and substance use disorders. With nearly two decades of experience, he has worked with highly acute clients and facilitated support groups for families in crisis. Dr. Laquanen is also a sought-after speaker and media personality, having appeared on The Doctor Show, Dr. Drew, Fox News, KTLA News, and more. He is the author of How to Get Your Resisting Loved One Into Treatment, a groundbreaking book that offers practical strategies for families navigating dysfunction and substance use.



01:11 Welcome to the Podcast
01:43 Introducing Dr. Brian Licuanan
02:00 Recap of Part One
02:34 Focus on Healing and Risk Factors
02:56 Dr. Brian's Background and Experience
03:41 The Importance of Support Systems
07:43 Understanding Setbacks in Recovery
09:08 Failures as Data Points
11:28 Relapse vs. Lapse
14:24 The Role of Support Systems in Recovery
19:28 Family Dysfunction as a Risk Factor
23:32 Building Trust Over Time
27:36 Introducing the H2O Formula
30:27 Embracing Humility and Openness
31:50 The Role of Higher Power in Recovery
34:44 Phases of Recovery Explained
41:48 Micro Successes and Healing
45:21 Addressing Self-Medication
47:56 Finding Purpose and Joy
49:53 Conclusion and Resources

Connect with Dr. Licuanan

1) Website: drbrianlicuanan.com
2) Instagram: @drlicuanan
TikTok: @drlicuanan
YouTube: @drbrianlicuanan
Amazon book link:
https://www.amazon.com/Resisting-Loved-Treatment-Step-Step/dp/B0CY9W9S5W


Find Choose Freedom, The Plans He Has For Me, and Say Goodbye and Imagine across the web. Rose Ann Forte is working on even more support for anyone who finds themselves wanting to separate from unhealthy ways of life, including, but not limited to, sugar, food, drugs, alcohol, gambling, and other habits you yourself have deemed inconducive to your desired way of life. That's the core of Say Goodbye and Imagine. Imagine what your life will be like once you've said Goodbye to the habits that held you back.

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