Make It Weirder: Maggie Smith on Poetry, Success, and Creative Survival in the Age of AI
Release Date: 06/15/2025
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info_outlineThis episode is a dream come true. I sit down with bestselling author and poet Maggie Smith, whose viral poem Good Bones captured hearts around the world. We talk about navigating creative life with honesty and resilience—from managing unsupportive friends to staying grounded when the world starts watching.
We also dive into her newest book, Dear Writer, and how artists can protect their joy, set boundaries, and thrive in the AI era by getting weird, staying real, and honoring their process.
If you're a writer, artist, or creative soul trying to stay true to your work in a noisy world—this one's for you.
In this episode, we talk about:
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What happened when Good Bones went viral (14:40)
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Why you don’t need to monetize everything you make (18:25)
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Dealing with unsupportive family and friends (30:00)
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How to write personal stories safely and honestly (42:10)
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Maggie’s approach to creative rhythm vs. consistency (52:30)
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Why imperfection, eccentricity, and “making it weirder” matter now more than ever (1:02:00)
Guest Bio:
Maggie Smith is the author of You Could Make This Place Beautiful, Good Bones, Goldenrod, and Keep Moving. Her poems and essays have appeared in The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Paris Review, and Best American Poetry. A recipient of fellowships from the National Endowment for the Arts and Ohio Arts Council, her next book Dear Writer: Pep Talks & Practical Advice for the Creative Life will be released in April 2025.
Connect with Maggie Smith:
Website: maggiesmithpoet.com
Instagram: @maggiesmithpoet
Substack: For Dear Life
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