MTC 007: Dena Ali | The Surprising Power of Environment on Mental Health
Move The Chains Podcast | Unlocking Your Full Potential with Ryan Munsey
Release Date: 06/16/2025
Move The Chains Podcast | Unlocking Your Full Potential with Ryan Munsey
In this episode of the Move the Chains podcast, Ryan Munsey interviews Jake Stahl, a psychological strategist and CEO of Orchestrate. Jake works with elite sales teams and C-suite disruptors, to break down complex neuroscience into street-level strategies - In other words: Jake helps high performers change how they think, act, and win. His system, Neurostrategy™ is a battle-tested operating system for human influence—one that blends adaptive psychology, behavioral economics, and elite communication into a single, unstoppable framework. In this episode, we discuss the neuroscience of...
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In this episode of the Move the Chains podcast, host Ryan Munsey interviews Jenna Harrison, a top-ranked business coach and founder of The Uncommon Way. They discuss Jenna's unique journey from the fashion industry to coaching, the challenges of complacency, and the importance of resilience in entrepreneurship - and life in general. Jenna shares her insights on productivity, the concept of a 24-hour work week to increase productivity, and the significance of self-awareness in personal and professional growth. The conversation emphasizes the need for effective communication, understanding one's...
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In this episode of the Move the Chains podcast, host Ryan Munsey interviews Tamsen Webster, a message strategist with extensive experience in marketing and behavior change. They discuss the keys to effective messaging, the lessons learned from Tamsen's time at Weight Watchers - including behavior change and belief systems, and the captivating messaging framework outlined in her book, The Red Thread. Tamsen emphasizes the significance of understanding hidden problems in communication and how to apply these concepts to everything from important conversations, to meetings to marketing campaigns....
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In this episode of Move the Chains, Ryan Munsey interviews Rose Han, author of Add A Zero. Rose is a former Wall Street high performer who transformed her life from being $100,000 in debt to creating financial freedom in less than a decade. Rose shares her journey of financial awakening, the systems she built for success, and her method called 'At A Zero' which guides individuals towards financial freedom. The conversation delves into the importance of mindset, budgeting, making your money work for you, and investing wisely, while also emphasizing the need to find intrinsic motivation and joy...
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In this episode of the Move the Chains podcast, host Ryan Munsey interviews Robert Sikes, the founder of Keto Bricks. This is a great conversation that covers everything from building a brand from scratch, to fatherhood, developing mental toughness in the gym, and much more. Robert talks about the importance of building community - both locally/personally and for brands. He shares his personal experiences with eating disorders, the transition to a ketogenic lifestyle, and how he leverages his OCD for success. The conversation also touches on the importance of setting goals, and the resilience...
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In this episode of Move the Chains, Ryan Munsey interviews Jeff Munn, a performance coach who specializes in helping founders and high achievers overcome mental barriers to success. They discuss the importance of decision-making, the 'Pick Now' framework, and how fear often disguises itself as prudence. Jeff shares his journey from corporate law to coaching, emphasizing the need for self-awareness and recognizing emotional pitfalls. The conversation also touches on the significance of authenticity and the challenge of being true to oneself in a world filled with expectations. Jeff offers...
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In this episode of the Move the Chains podcast, Ryan Munsey answers audience questions from his recent speaking engagement at WLLE - Women Leaders in Law Enforcement. Questions include how to overcome performance anxiety, the importance of separating one's identity from their performance, healthy striving versus unhealthy perfectionism, differentiating between nerves and limiting beliefs, and how to uncover and challenge your limiting beliefs. Links (Women Leaders in Law Enforcement) Connect with Ryan Munsey Follow Ryan on Subscribe to Ryan's Connect with Ryan...
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In this episode of the Move the Chains podcast, Ryan Munsey speaks with Oscar Subirats, an athlete, entrepreneur and author, about the importance of mindset in sports and life. They discuss frameworks for making decisions, the value of time management, how to scale faster, the importance of developing “human skills” rather than sales training and many more tips to help you Move The Chains. Chapters 01:35 Oscar Subarats: A Versatile Background 02:51 The Importance of Mindset in Sports 05:42 Understanding 'Good Enough' in Performance 10:00 Entrepreneurial Lessons from Family 11:59...
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In this episode of Move the Chains, host Ryan Munsey speaks with Erin Coupe, a high performer and founder of 'I Can Fit That In'. They discuss Erin's journey from a scarcity mindset to one of abundance, the importance of self-awareness, and how to overcome comparison and limiting beliefs. Erin shares insights on creating microcultures within organizations, the power of language in personal growth, and strategies for lasting change. The conversation emphasizes the significance of rituals over routines, finding balance between performance and fulfillment, and practical time management tips for...
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In this episode of the Move the Chains podcast, host Ryan Munsey speaks with former UFC World Champion TJ Dillashaw about his journey from a world-class athlete to an entrepreneur and business owner. Dillashaw shares insights on the mindset required for peak performance, the importance of embracing fear, and the lessons learned throughout his career. He shares how learning to win in sports has helped in his business pursuits and the importance of consistency in achieving success. The conversation also explores Dillashaw's take on living a healthy lifestyle and the vision for his company, Wild...
info_outlineIn this episode of the Move the Chains Podcast, Ryan Munsey speaks with Dena Ali, a battalion chief with the Raleigh (NC) Fire Department and mental wellness advocate for first responders. Dena is also the Program Manager for Behavioral Health for the First Responder Center For Excellence, and the author of the Fire Engineering bestselling book Hope out of Darkness ~ A Guide to First Responder Mental Wellness.
They discuss the importance of understanding mental health struggles through the lens of environmental factors rather than personal blame. The conversation emphasizes the significance of patience, emotional intelligence, and the need to address root causes of mental health issues rather than just treating symptoms. In this conversation, Dena Ali discusses the importance of shifting from a reactive to a proactive approach in mental health, particularly for first responders. She emphasizes building resilience through adversity, the power of gratitude, and the significance of humor in coping with stress. Dena also highlights the critical role of sleep in maintaining mental and physical health, and the need for first responders to have tools and strategies - including play - to manage their mental wellness effectively.
Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction to Mental Wellness in First Responders
- 02:01 Understanding Struggles and Environment
- 03:22 Personal Journey to Mental Wellness
- 08:54 The Role of Adversity in Growth
- 11:58 From Research to Action: A Turning Point
- 18:09 The Impact of Sharing Experiences
- 22:02 Courage and Emotional Intelligence in Advocacy
- 24:33 Patience and the Long Road to Change
- 28:48 Getting Upstream: Addressing Root Causes
- 29:13 From Reaction to Prevention: A Shift in Perspective
- 30:25 Building Resilience: The Power of Adversity
- 31:55 The Importance of Gratitude in Challenging Times
- 34:49 Managing Stress: The Stress Bucket Analogy
- 36:58 The Role of Humor in First Responder Culture
- 41:11 Understanding Sleep: A Critical Component of Health
- 52:19 Empowering First Responders: Tools for Mental Wellness
- 54:08 The Balance of Play and Work
Links
- Connect with Dena:
- LinkedIn: Dena Ali
- Instagram: @dma1096
- Website: firstrespondercenter.org
- Get Dena's Book: Hope Out of Darkness
- Get Your Copy of F*ck Your Feelings
- Connect with Ryan:
- Website
- Follow Ryan on Instagram
- Subscribe to Ryan's YouTube Channel
- Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn
- Save 10% on your first melin hat, the world's best hats: Use the code MoveTheChains10 at melin.com