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Equity, Not Equality: What Post-Secondary Neurodivergent Students Really Need

The Neurodiversity Voices Podcast

Release Date: 08/11/2025

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Guests: Jenna Ignaczak, Malka Finkelstein, and Maddie Sardone — Student leaders from the Neurodiversity Students Association (NDSA) at Toronto Metropolitan University discuss what it truly means to be a neurodivergent student in post-secondary education today.

In this powerful episode of The Neurodiversity Voices, host Paul Cruz hands the mic to Hussein and Zion, two university students from the Venture for Canada entrepreneurship program. They sit down with three student leaders from the Neurodiversity Students Association (NDSA) at Toronto Metropolitan University (TMU) to explore what it really means to create a neurodivergent-friendly campus.

You’ll hear honest, deeply personal stories about masking, accessibility, academic barriers, and the emotional toll of constantly self-advocating. You’ll also hear hopeful visions for a future where equity, not just equality, guides how universities support their students.


Together, they share stories of inclusion, moments of isolation, experiences with ableism, and insights into how universities can better support neurodivergent students. The conversation dives into policy challenges, mental health, masking, equity vs. equality, and the importance of community.

Whether you’re a student, educator, ally, or policymaker, this episode will leave you informed, inspired, and motivated to advocate for a more inclusive future in higher education.

Quotes to Remember:

“It’s not about equality, it’s about equity.” – Malka
 “We don’t know what we don’t know. Ask students what they need.” – Jenna
 “It’s easier to get rid of us than support us. That’s the problem.” – Maddie


Neurodiversity Students Association, Toronto Metropolitan University
Instagram: @tmu_ndsa


This episode also features a special clip from "Telos: A Neurodiversity Conversation," a youth-led podcast hosted by autistic teen Ares Wren.

Featured Clip: Telos – A Neurodiversity Conversation

We open with a segment from the podcast Telos, in the episode “In Neurodiversity: Why Race, Culture, and Language Matter.” The clip explores:

  • How Asian, South Asian, Indigenous, and other BIPOC communities face unique barriers in diagnosis and support
  • The role of medical mistrust, language barriers, and cultural stigma
  • How masking can be not just a coping strategy, but a cultural expectation
  • How systems, racism, and a lack of cultural humility can make being neurodivergent actively dangerous for some

You can listen to this full Telos episode on their feed https://anchor.fm/s/fc565318/podcast/rss


Host & Producer:

  • Paul Cruz – Host of The Neurodiversity Voices Podcast

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