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Andrea Jordan — Creativity, Courage, and Building Human-Centered AI

The Jason Cavness Experience

Release Date: 11/18/2025

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Andrea Jordan — Creativity, Courage, and Building Human-Centered AI

Episode Summary:

In this episode of The Jason Cavness Experience, Jason sits down with Andrea Jordan, Founder & CEO of Empathium, an AI-powered platform focused on helping people strengthen emotional intelligence, communication, and connection through role-play, self-awareness tools, and human-centered design.

Andrea shares her journey as a parent, founder, and creative problem-solver and the unique path that led her from writing and imagination-filled childhood days to becoming a leader in Seattle’s fast-growing AI community. She breaks down how she built her platform in just three days, how community shaped her entrepreneurial path, and why courage is a skill you build, not something you’re born with.

 The conversation covers her panel at Seattle AI Week, her experience winning pitch competitions, the incubator she joined (C619), and the systemic challenges she sees in healthcare, training, burnout, and tech accessibility.

Andrea also gives a live demo of her personalized communication and self-awareness platform and explains how role-play, scenario training, and micro-learning can help people navigate everything from crisis de-escalation to tough family conversations. 

This episode is packed with insights on AI, empathy, leadership, burnout, resilience, and the power of showing up as your full self especially when you’re the “only one in the room.”

Topics Discussed:

• How Andrea balances parenting, creativity, and building a startup

• Why courage is a skill, not a personality trait

• The origins of Empathium and the inspiration behind TEND

• Using AI to build empathy, not replace it

• The power of micro-learning and real-time scenario practice

• What Andrea learned from Seattle AI Week and winning multiple pitch competitions

• Navigating burnout vs. moral injury

 • The importance of community for founders especially women and Black founders

 • Her experience joining an incubator

 • How AI tools can transform healthcare, training, and communication

 • The emotional reality of being a founder and decision-maker

• Why emotional connection is at the center of all human work

• Advice for anyone who’s the “only one” in a room or industry

• Why authenticity beats assimilation in the startup world

Support CavnessHR and Help Us Build the Future of Small Business HR CavnessHR is building an AI-native HR system specifically for small businesses with 49 or fewer employees combining automation with a dedicated HR Business Partner to save time, reduce risk, and make HR actually work.

 If you believe small businesses deserve better, here’s how you can get involved:

 💸 Invest on Wefunder Be an early owner as we rebuild our platform with our Vietnam dev team.

 https://wefunder.com/cavnesshr

 📚 Download 7 Free eBooks from The Jason Cavness Experience Leadership, AI, startups, founder stories, and more:

 https://www.buildcavnesshr.com/ebooks

 🤝 Join the CavnessHR Builders Club Help shape the product. Be part of the community.

 https://www.buildcavnesshr.com/

Connect with Andrea Jordan & Empathium

Website: https://empath.ai

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-jordan/

Connect with Jason Cavness

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncavness

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasoncavness

Podcast Website: https://www.thejasoncavnessexperience.com