132: Bigger and Better | Can the Trump Administration Target Nonprofits?
Release Date: 02/20/2025
Charity Therapy
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info_outlineIn this episode of Charity Therapy, Meghan and I are answering the big question - can the Trump administration target nonprofits?. We’re getting real about the fears of funding cuts and increased scrutiny, and dive in on the looming threat of the HR 9495 bill, which could label some nonprofits as terrorist organizations.
Keeping your nonprofit in good standing feels like a never-ending battle, especially with all this uncertainty swirling around. That's why we're sharing practical tips to help you armor up with preparedness and compliance. From IRS requirements to solid financial controls, we've got your back. Plus, we talk about the power of building a supportive network of like-minded pros who align with your mission.
So, what can you do to stay afloat in these tumultuous times? First, keep your affairs in order, and maybe stash away a legal defense fund—just in case. Professionalizing your bookkeeping might sound boring, but trust us, it’s a game-changer. And if you’re feeling overwhelmed, download our survival guide for more detailed advice.
We're all in this together, and with a little preparation and a dash of humor, we’ll help you steer your nonprofit through whatever comes next.
In this episode, you will hear:
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Potential threats to nonprofits during the Trump administration, especially on those working in immigration, LGBTQ+ rights, and reproductive rights
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The concerns surrounding losing funding just because your nonprofit promotes diversity and inclusion
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Tips for staying compliant with IRS rules, beefing up your financial controls, and making sure your books are squeaky clean
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All the details on the HR 9495 bill, which could let the government label nonprofits as terrorist organizations without much evidence
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How to protect your organization, no matter your mission
Resources from this Episode
Download our 2025 Survival Guide for nonprofits: www.birkenlaw.com/2025-survival-guide
See OFAC Rules question on IRS 1023: www.irs.gov/instructions/i1023#en_US_202412_publink100022027
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