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148: Type A Personalities Unite! | When Nonprofits Should (Or Shouldn't!) Use PEOs for Their HR with Jess Holst

Charity Therapy

Release Date: 10/02/2025

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Charity Therapy

Nonprofits are tax-exempt, so lots of people assume that nonprofits don’t have to worry about taxes ever. Right???? Well, not quite 😐 In this episode, Meghan and I dig into a question I hear all the time from people who want to help their communities but are confused about how nonprofit tax rules actually work. Real Listener Question: “I own a couple of restaurants and we have several events to raise money for certain causes. Usually the money goes toward a charity or a local group, but sometimes we'll do it for a community member who needs financial support. The problem we're seeing is...

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You’re getting donations for a nonprofit – and that’s great! But sometimes generosity comes with strings you never expected. In this episode, Meghan and I dig into the wild world of donor gifts and why nonprofits need clear guardrails to protect themselves from gifts that actually hurt the nonprofit. Real Listener Question: “We have a donation button on our website where people can give online and set up recurring donations for monthly contributions. A few weeks ago, someone set up a daily 50 cent donation. Our accountant looked into it and is saying that it's not fraud or anything...

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Think an audit is something to fear for your nonprofit? I get it! But what if it’s actually a powerful tool for growth? In this episode, I sit down with nonprofit auditor Hannah Hugen from to unpack what an audit really is and why it’s not nearly as scary as it sounds. Real Listener Question: “We filed the 1023-EZ and said we’d stay under $50K… but now a funding opportunity would push us past that. Will the IRS audit us? Should we say no to the money?” Hannah and I dig into what an audit actually involves, what the IRS does (and doesn’t) care about, and how nonprofits can...

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If your team is exhausted, overwhelmed, and constantly working nights and weekends, you might be dealing with more than a scheduling issue. You might be dealing with a culture problem that is hurting your mission. In this episode, I invited my friend and people strategy expert to talk with me about the hidden issues inside nonprofit overwork and what it really takes to build a sustainable organizational culture. Real Listener Question: I’m a new staff member, and everyone at this nonprofit works tons of overtime without being paid (as hourly employees). The ED works all the time, and the...

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You’ve got a great business idea, people want to donate to help, and you’re thinking… “What if I just start a nonprofit?” Hold up — let’s talk about it. In this episode, Meghan and I tackle one of the most common (and most frustrating) misconceptions out there — when entrepreneurs try to mix business ventures with nonprofit structures. Real Listener Question: “I’m coaching a small business owner who wants to restore a historic hotel, turn it into an Airbnb, and start a nonprofit to collect donations for the renovation. He says it’s a win-win — is that legal?” This one...

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Nonprofit HR can be messy — but it doesn’t have to be. Let’s talk about when it’s time to call in reinforcements (and what “reinforcements” actually look like). I sat down with Mark Bromberg, a Business Performance Advisor at Insperity and one of my favorite people to send clients to when HR headaches start taking over. We dug into what PEOs (Professional Employer Organizations) really do — and when they make sense for nonprofits. Real Listener Question: “Our professional association has seven employees. We’re losing our CEO soon, and our board wants to consider...

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What happens when a for-profit giant “helps” nonprofits without asking first? Spoiler: chaos, confusion, and a lot of angry fundraisers. In this episode, I sat down with my good friend and fundraising pro, Ephraim Gopin of 1832 Communications, to unpack the wild story of GoFundMe auto-creating donation pages for 1.4 million nonprofits — without their consent. Real Listener Question: “What do we do if our nonprofit suddenly has a GoFundMe page we didn’t create? Is that even legal?” When news broke that GoFundMe scraped IRS data to create “official” donation pages for nonprofits,...

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If your board hasn’t met in ten months, that’s not just awkward — it’s a big problem. In this episode, Meghan and I dive into a basic (but often overlooked) part of nonprofit governance: how often a board needs to meet, and what happens when it doesn’t. Real Listener Question: “My wife joined the board of a small arts nonprofit, but they haven’t met once in ten months. The executive director sends quarterly updates by email — that’s it. Is that legal?” A board that never meets isn’t really a board — it’s a liability. Meghan and I talk about what state laws and bylaws...

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Think a PEO will solve all your nonprofit’s HR headaches? Not so fast — the fine print might surprise you. In this episode, I’m joined by HR consultant Jess Holst from to answer a listener’s question about whether a professional employer organization (PEO) is the right solution for their growing nonprofit. Real Listener Question: “We’ve grown from four employees to nearly twelve. I’ve been handling payroll and HR myself, but it’s becoming too much. A board member suggested a PEO, but it feels too good to be true. Should we do it?” PEOs get sold as a one-stop HR solution, but...

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Worried your nonprofit’s DEI programs might be illegal now? You’re not alone — and I can bet you won’t be able to find the right answer on social media. In this episode, I’m joined by Megan Fuciarelli from US2 Consulting to dig into what the latest EEOC guidance actually means for nonprofits trying to foster inclusion. Real Listener Question: “My nonprofit has employee resource groups (ERGs) for LGBTQ+, Latinx, Black, and AAPI staff. They’re popular, but I heard the EEOC says they might count as discrimination now. Do we need to shut them down, or is there a way to keep them...

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Think a PEO will solve all your nonprofit’s HR headaches? Not so fast — the fine print might surprise you.

In this episode, I’m joined by HR consultant Jess Holst from Aligned HRC to answer a listener’s question about whether a professional employer organization (PEO) is the right solution for their growing nonprofit.

Real Listener Question: “We’ve grown from four employees to nearly twelve. I’ve been handling payroll and HR myself, but it’s becoming too much. A board member suggested a PEO, but it feels too good to be true. Should we do it?”

PEOs get sold as a one-stop HR solution, but the reality is more complicated. Jess Holst and I unpack the promises versus the pitfalls: from hidden compliance traps, to the limits of what PEOs actually cover, to the unexpected costs that nonprofits often don’t see coming. We also explore alternatives like fractional HR support and how to make smarter choices about employee benefits.

What You'll Learn:

  • What a PEO actually does — and what it doesn’t
  • The real reason many nonprofits consider a PEO (hint: health insurance)
  • Why compliance gaps and hidden costs can make PEOs risky
  • How pairing a PEO with fractional HR could be a smarter move
  • Why shopping with a benefits broker might save you more than a PEO
  • How to know when your nonprofit is ready for outside HR help

Bottom line: A PEO isn’t a magic HR fix. For some nonprofits, it might be a tool. For many, it’s a costly distraction. What matters most is building a strong HR foundation — whether that’s with fractional HR support, a trusted benefits broker, or a thoughtful plan for growth.

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