Circle Up & Get REAL Podcast
Has money been given a job it was never meant to do — proving your worth? In this solo episode of Circle Up and Get Real, Jodee Bock explores money as a tool and an exchange of value, while questioning the meaning we attach to salaries, prices, rates, achievement, and someone else’s willingness to pay. She shares the personal path from a Midwestern ‘work harder’ mindset through corporate leadership, accidental entrepreneurship, free speaking engagements, undercharging, and the gradual separation of worth, value, and cost. The conversation ultimately shifts from transaction to...
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After nearly two weeks away from the podcast, Jodee finds herself wondering: Who really cares if an episode arrives on schedule — and who is keeping score? That question opens a deeper reflection on commitments, promises, connection, resilience, and discipline. From a rainy Disrupt HR event in Fargo to wildfire-smoked mountains in Montana, Jodee considers what happens when reality does not match our expectations. She shares how a quick, meaningful conversation reminded her that our challenge may not be a lack of communication, but a lack of genuine connection. She also explores how small...
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What do you do when life creates an unexpected opening? Most of us rush to fill empty space—with busyness, worry, or the next thing on our list. But what if those openings aren't problems to solve? What if they're invitations to grow? In this episode, I explore the difference between loss and capacity, why our identity matters during times of transition, and how creating space can help us recognize possibilities we might otherwise miss. Whether you're changing jobs, retiring, launching a business, or simply entering a new chapter of life, this conversation invites you to pause before filling...
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What if life isn't a problem to solve—but a journey to experience? In this solo episode of Circle Up & Get REAL, Jodee reflects on an upcoming biking adventure through Montana and discovers that planning a road trip has a surprising way of illuminating life itself. Through stories about maps, GPS systems, bike trails, and mountain roads, she explores why we often expect life to be easier than it was ever meant to be. The journey reminds us that hills, valleys, storms, detours, and unexpected companions aren't signs we've gone off course—they're part of the adventure. Jodee shares why...
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What if saying no was actually one of the most important career skills you could develop? In this episode of Circle Up & Get REAL, Jodee sits down with workplace strategist, facilitator, and author Heather Archer to explore why so many talented professionals become overwhelmed by saying yes to work that doesn't move them forward. Drawing from her signature framework, The Promotion Equation, Heather explains how to distinguish between high-value work that advances your career and the "invisible" tasks that quietly consume your time and energy. Heather shares the personal story behind...
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What happens when the identity you've been living no longer feels big enough to hold who you're becoming? In this episode of Circle Up & Get REAL, Jodee welcomes keynote speaker, executive coach, and leadership expert Lisa Connors for a conversation about identity, growth, and the courage to step into new possibilities. Lisa shares the story behind her emerging framework, Name Yourself, which encourages people to stop waiting for permission and begin claiming the identities that have been quietly calling to them all along. Together, they explore everything from leadership and creativity to...
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What happens when you stop looking outside yourself for answers and begin trusting the wisdom already within you? In this episode of Circle Up & Get REAL, Jodee reconnects with entrepreneur, coach, author, and manifestation guide Tonja Waring. The two first met through a networking organization in 2018 and have both experienced significant personal and professional evolution since then. Tonja shares her journey from a difficult season of life just a few years ago to creating the Wise Mystic Lounge, a growing community focused on intuition, manifestation, energy alignment, and conscious...
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Why do we often expect nonprofits to do more with less while holding them to intense levels of scrutiny? Recently I've been pondering the relationship between accountability, ownership, stewardship, and the conditions that bring out our best thinking and leadership. I used to believe what was missing in our organizational dynamics is accountability. But I wonder if it's something else.
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Napoleon Hill understood the power of the master mind ... having others in your circle who can give you additional perspectives you couldn't have realized on your own. I have facilitated or been a part of several of these groups over the years, and I have witnessed and experienced first-hand what that power has done for me. Find out more about our Monday Mastermind: The Enlightened Leadership Lab at www.emergentculturelabs.com/leadershiplab
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In this episode of Circle Up and Get REAL, Jodee sits down with photographer, filmmaker, and creative visionary Josh Madson to explore an extraordinary journey of reinvention, purpose, and human connection. Josh shares how a broken-up band and a leap of faith led him from Minnesota to Los Angeles, where he built a successful career working alongside some of the biggest names in photography, including Annie Leibovitz and major commercial brands. Along the way, he learned that great photography is less about technical perfection and more about helping people feel comfortable, valued, and...
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In this episode of Circle Up & Get REAL, Jodee welcomes keynote speaker, executive coach, and leadership expert Lisa Connors for a conversation about identity, growth, and the courage to step into new possibilities. Lisa shares the story behind her emerging framework, Name Yourself, which encourages people to stop waiting for permission and begin claiming the identities that have been quietly calling to them all along.
Together, they explore everything from leadership and creativity to painting, drumming, podcasting, and writing. Along the way, they reflect on the people who have named gifts in them before they could see them themselves, the difference between being motivated and inspired, and why our lives often expand not by replacing old identities but by adding new ones. If you've ever heard yourself ask, "Who am I to do that?" this conversation may offer a different question worth considering.
In This Episode
- Lisa introduces her new Name Yourself framework and explains how identity shapes the way we live and lead.
- Why new identities don't replace old ones. They stack.
- The difference between motivation that pushes and inspiration that pulls.
- Jodee shares her unexpected journey from first-time painter to identifying as an artist.
- Lisa tells the story of becoming a drummer simply because something inside her wouldn't let go of the idea.
- How community often sees our gifts before we do.
- The role of joy, curiosity, and experimentation in creating a meaningful life.
- The influence of difficult seasons, including loss, cancer, divorce, and career transitions, in shaping who we become.
- A conversation about The Fourth Turning is Here and finding hope during uncertain times.
- Why authentic conversations create more transformation than scripted interviews.
Memorable Thought
"Sometimes the greatest transformation doesn't happen when we become someone new. It happens when we finally give ourselves permission to become who we've been all along."
Connect with Lisa Connors
Lisa Connors is a keynote speaker, executive leadership coach, and creator of the Name Yourself framework, helping leaders and high achievers intentionally create the identities that support the lives and careers they want to build. Her work also includes Generative Leadership and Generative Power, helping individuals and organizations lead with greater confidence, resilience, and authenticity.
Learn more at lisaconners.com and connect with Lisa on LinkedIn and Instagram.
Connect with Jodee
Jodee Bock is a speaker, executive coach, author, artist, and host of Circle Up & Get REAL. Through conversations that are Radical, Energized, Authentic, and Learning-focused, she helps leaders develop themselves first so they can create cultures where people and organizations thrive. Learn more at jodeebock.com and subscribe to the Get REAL with Jodee YouTube channel for full video episodes and additional conversations.
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