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BIGGEST RISK with Ben Mandel

Commercial Real Estate Pro Network

Release Date: 06/02/2020

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 J Darrin Gross If you're willing, I'd like to ask you, Ashley Garner, what is the BIGGEST RISK?   Ashley Garner I think the biggest risk is to be under capitalized and and ultimately, you know, a property can go up in value, or the the P and L can show a profit, but if you don't have enough cash flow to pay the bills or make the repairs that you need to make, or make the improvements you need to make, then you you're in a tight spot, and that puts everything at risk, and that's an avoidable risk to not be under capitalized. But the temptation is so great a lot of times to say, I'm...

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J Darrin Gross If you're willing, I'd like to ask you, Joe downs, what is the BIGGEST RISK?   Joe Downs To me, it's, I'll give you, I'll give you, all right, you just want the biggest I'm gonna go right to base. To me, it's change. It's sort of what I just alluded to, if we were, if, if we still thought, because we weren't out there interviewing and investigating other third party management companies. If we refuse to do all that and just head in the sand, we would probably start falling behind other storage facilities, other competitors, who are managing their facilities better than we...

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J Darrin Gross If you're willing, I'd like to ask you, Peter Roisman, what is the BIGGEST RISK?   Peter Roisman Well, the biggest risk, in my mind, for besides physical property itself, is the occupancy and and and the rental rates. So if you have an underperforming leasing team. And your occupancy drops into the 80s, you know. And at one point, 15% of the properties in Houston were under 85% you're at risk. That is, that is a high risk, too. So in to flip that, to address that risk, you have to be high performing at leasing, which, which means you're not at risk at all. You're lowering...

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J Darrin Gross And so if you're willing, I'd like to ask you. Brent Kessler, what is the biggest risk?   Brent Kessler Yeah, well, let me answer it a couple different ways on there. But so as far as a risk, okay, as far as in our business, and what we do when you have this type of policy, I tell people all the time, there is no risk at all, because nobody's ever lost money in a whole life insurance policy. But then I stop, and I say, wait a minute, there is one risk. The risk is you, the risk is you the client and how you use the policy. So you're the only one that can screw this up. You...

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Ben Mandel, what is the BIGGEST RISK?

Ben Mandel  

Well, the biggest risk actually has two cards. Initially, the biggest one Risk is, as compared to the 1031 exchange, you, you will end up having to pay the tax at some point in the 1031. Exchange if you hold the property until you pass there's no tax ever pay. So that's that's part A of the biggest risk. Part B of the biggest risk is, if you were to pass prior to the note being or the time period being completed on the transaction, then the heirs would have to choose whether or not they wanted to actually leave this open in the estate of the decedent or if they wanted to pay the tax early.

We never suggest leaving it open in the state of Tennessee. The idea with estates usually is that you want to close them as quickly as possible. So those are the two biggest risks that last or risk we utilize, or we recommend to the sellers advisor. If they consider utilizing a survivorship insurance policy to transfer that risk of pre deceased in the 30 years, and having that benefit available to the heirs so that they could choose to just pay the tax when the individuals passed away. Otherwise, the biggest risk is if the if the individuals do not pass, there has to be some sort of plan that would allow them to pay that tax in 30 years.

Theoretically, if you invest your money and you do well, you'll have plenty of money to pay the tax. But what we suggest to the advisors in the event that they do outlive the 30 year period, that they set aside a certain percentage small percentage of the asset or the dollars that they receive into a conservative interest paying account, treasury bonds, municipal bonds, that would help to defer or or assist in paying that tax when it comes to you in 30 years.