Group Practice (R)evolution: Sustainable Solutions for Staff Retention and Satisfaction with Jennifer Froemel
Conversations With a Wounded Healer
Release Date: 04/30/2025
Conversations With a Wounded Healer
Shout out to all the folks who continue to show up for themselves. Lending physical and emotional support to others is easy. Extending that same amount of empathy and reliability to ourselves? Ugh, no. That’s why many of us abandon our healing work just as things start to challenge us. But the muck is where we need to be if we have any hope of growing into a true expression of self. Annie Schuessler Zam, a therapist-turned-healer and host of the Rebel Therapist™ podcast, personifies the life-long practice of showing up for oneself. So, when she asked if she could return to the show to...
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The solution to all (okay, most) of the challenges facing group practices is embedded, quite cleverly, in the name. Owner, admin, or therapist, your individual participation informs the altruistic and financial goals of the entire practice. And also… Groups are powered by people––real, live humans with individual expectations, convictions, experiences, and traumas. Samantha Perry, LCSW, encourages folks on both sides of the "old school/new school" divide to get comfortable with transparency and vulnerability. She also recommends committing to intrapersonal healing work, especially...
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I hate to break it to you, but friendships require effort. Actually, I’m happy to pass that info on! Part Two of the conversation between Mishara D. Winston and Christina Michelle Watkins delves into the realities of authentic connection––notably, how we take responsibility for our attachment styles and our roles in a healthy rift-and-repair process. That’s “the work.” If you haven’t already done so, check out Part One. You’ll not only learn why I opted to play audience member instead of host for this pair of episodes, but also why I consider these humans to be such a...
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What does it mean to be a good friend? If you’re struggling to answer, my next question might help you find the words. How do we learn the skills to maintain genuine, deeply nourishing friendships? For this special episode, I’ve enlisted a pair of exceptional role models: Mishara D. Winston and Christina Michelle Watkins, two visionary healers and storytellers in conversation—without me. It’s an opportunity to learn from a truly special friendship. Tune into Part II for even more intentionality and inspiration. GUEST BIO Mishara D. Winston is a strategic mental wellness...
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Good people create great group practices. Eventually. I tacked that adverb on the end not to undermine anyone’s ability to craft cultures of transparency and inclusivity, but to acknowledge that the whole shebang requires constant work. Amy Zajakowski Uhll, LCPC, founder and director of Chicago Center for Integration and Healing (CCIH), is an excellent example of an accomplished leader and eternal learner, the latter contributing so much heart to the former. Amy and I discuss her 30-year career evolution from nervous newbie to seasoned practice owner. We also explore her strategies for...
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If Simon Mont wants to get into a conversation about ego, idols, and the mystical process of birthing new realities, who am I to discourage him? “Whatever you're ultimately concerned with is, definitionally, your God,” he begins. “God comes from the German: that which you invoke. It's what you're invoking in every moment.” Thus begins the second half of my wide-ranging chat with Simon, a lifelong learner doing his best to remember and respect the sacredness of the world and help others do the same. GUEST BIO Simon Mont is a life long learner, doing his best to remember and...
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Now, I can’t promise that a chat with Simon Mont will soothe away the complexities of our current socio-political environment. But, it can reconnect us to the big feelings and deep thoughts that we often abandoned in favor of surviving these "unprecedented times.” Simon is co-founder of Harmonize, the consulting firm that helps groups bridge the gap between values, vision, and impact. “I help people solve problems,” says Simon matter-of-factly. GUEST BIO Simon Mont is a lifelong learner, doing his best to remember and respect the sacredness of the world, and help others do the...
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How can we improve communication between practice owners and employees? Sthefany Alviar reveals insights from the contrast between her current role at Mirjam Quinn and Associates and a previous, less supportive private practice. She and Sarah explore issues such as financial transparency, the challenges of transitioning from salaried to contractual pay, and the importance of clear administrative support. Sthefany emphasizes the value of aligning personal values with those of the practice, noting how Miriam's openness about financials and future plans contributes to a positive workplace...
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As promised, here’s the fantastic part two of my conversation with Tamila Gresham. We delve into the foundational pieces of accountability: knowledge, nuance, relationship, and vulnerability. You know what to do if you haven’t met her yet: hit play on part one. Tamilia is co-founder of Harmonize, a consulting firm that helps organizations bridge the gap between values, vision, and impact. She’s a lifelong educator with formal education in law, sociology, and philosophy. Tamila centers justice and heart-work in her efforts to change organizations and the world. GUEST BIO Tamila...
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Some advice for therapists and those in adjacent healing professions: This (gestures wildly at everything) is not the time to close ranks. We’re being called to proceed with less ego and more accountability. Lately, however, anger (much of it warranted) and impatience have turned accountability into more of a cudgel than the intended call-in. Tamila Gresham is here to reconnect us to core strategies that have always worked but may have gotten away from us in the current social climate (see: anger and impatience). Tamila is co-founder of Harmonize, a consulting firm that helps...
info_outlineIf you work inside a group practice, why do you stay? And if you lead a group practice, do you know why your employees stay? Or… why they don’t?
Jennifer Fromel is a bilingual mental health clinician with over 30 years of experience across various clinical and supervisory settings, specializing in trauma, evidence-based interventions, and integrative therapy approaches. She is actively involved in professional networks, serving as a leader in counseling organizations, advisory boards, and community collaborations while advocating for accessible mental health care for diverse populations. Recognized for her expertise and contributions, Jennifer has been featured as a psychological expert on media platforms, regularly presents on Latino community treatment approaches, and has received awards for her clinical excellence and human rights advocacy.
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