loader from loading.io

VRS670 - When Hospitality Leads and Tech Follows

Vacation Rental Success

Release Date: 07/01/2026

VRS677 - Who Decides What Good Looks Like? show art VRS677 - Who Decides What Good Looks Like?

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit. Visit  and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Most people in short-term rentals describe how they got started with a slight apology...

info_outline
VRS676 - My AI Tool Stack, and What It Actually Costs show art VRS676 - My AI Tool Stack, and What It Actually Costs

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit. Visit  and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Five days before recording this episode, Heather added an AI agent called Viktor to...

info_outline
VRS675 - If You Don’t Own Your Guest, You Don’t Own Your Business show art VRS675 - If You Don’t Own Your Guest, You Don’t Own Your Business

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit. Visit  and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Twenty-five years ago, Heather could get on the phone with every guest who booked...

info_outline
VRS674 - What Hyperlocal Really Means, and Why the Owner Is the Real Customer show art VRS674 - What Hyperlocal Really Means, and Why the Owner Is the Real Customer

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit. Visit  and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ This episode started on LinkedIn. Gil Chan posted about hyperlocal property...

info_outline
VRS673 - When the Work Comes First, the Magic Follows show art VRS673 - When the Work Comes First, the Magic Follows

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit. Visit  and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Paul Anderson first appeared on the Vacation Rental Success Podcast in 2021, when he...

info_outline
VRS672 - Direct Bookings, AI Websites, and the Search That's Changing Everything show art VRS672 - Direct Bookings, AI Websites, and the Search That's Changing Everything

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit. Visit  and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Gil Chan came at the short-term rental industry from a direction most operators...

info_outline
VRS671 - 10 Things I'd Do With AI If I Was A Property Manager Again show art VRS671 - 10 Things I'd Do With AI If I Was A Property Manager Again

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit. Visit  and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ This episode almost wasn't the one you're hearing. Heather had already recorded,...

info_outline
VRS670 - When Hospitality Leads and Tech Follows show art VRS670 - When Hospitality Leads and Tech Follows

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit. Visit  and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Sab Mulligan came into the short-term rental industry from a decade in media...

info_outline
VRS669 - Connectors, Skills, and the AI Business Brain - with Jodi Bourne show art VRS669 - Connectors, Skills, and the AI Business Brain - with Jodi Bourne

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit. Visit and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Jodi Bourne is back for the latest installment of the new regular segment with Heather, built around a simple premise: AI is moving...

info_outline
VRS668 - Purpose Before Polish: AI in Business and Hospitality show art VRS668 - Purpose Before Polish: AI in Business and Hospitality

Vacation Rental Success

This Episode is Sponsored by Lodgify If you have been thinking about building your own direct booking channel and reducing your reliance on the OTAs, Lodgify is worth a serious look. It brings your booking website, channel management, guest messaging, and unified inbox into one place. VRS listeners can get 20% off yearly and bi-yearly plans with code VRS-20, valid through to the end of June. Visit Lodgify and use code VRS-20 to get started.    ...

info_outline
 
More Episodes

This Episode is Sponsored by StayFi

Your ultimate tool for Vacation Rental WiFi marketing allowing you to collect guest emails automatically via custom captive WiFi login splash pages. Drive repeat direct bookings and convert your OTA bookings to book direct for their next visit.

Visit https://stayfi.com/vrsuccess/ and use code VRSUCCESS for 50% off 3 months of StayFi service.

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Sab Mulligan came into the short-term rental industry from a decade in media production and another in tech education, and she arrived with a beginner's mind that turned out to be an advantage. 

What she noticed in those early industry conversations wasn't the passion for hospitality she'd expected. It was burnout, worn almost as a badge of honour. People competing over who'd taken the most 3am calls. She found that troubling, and it drove the approach she'd go on to build at Zzzing, a fast-growing property management company based in Malta.

Three and a half years later, Zzzing has grown from 50 properties to 650, and their AI agent Zoe handles 90% of all guest communications across the portfolio. But what makes this conversation interesting isn't the scale or the technology. It's the philosophy behind it: that tech should be silent, and hospitality should be loud. That AI doesn't replace the human side of this business, rather it gives people more time and energy to deliver it.

Sab and I talked about her TRT framework for designing AI policies, the seven guest moments that anchor everything Zzzing does, how they handled team resistance to AI adoption, and what she'd say to property managers still watching from the sidelines.

Key Takeaways

  •  Tech should be silent, hospitality should be loud. The goal of AI in guest communication isn't to replace the host's voice.  It’s there to deliver that voice consistently, at any hour, across every conversation.

  •  AI amplifies what you already have in place. If your policies aren't documented, AI won't fix that. It will amplify the mess. Getting your foundations right before deploying AI isn't a delay,it's the work.

  •  Sab's TRT framework makes policy design accessible. Trigger (what initiates this communication), Reaction (how you would genuinely respond), Tone (the warmth, the friendliness, the examples), and Guardrails (when does the AI stop and hand to a human).

  •  The seven guest moments give you a map. Discovery, booking, arrival, access, during-stay, checkout, and come-back. Everything you need from AI slots into one of those seven buckets.

  •  Humanising the AI agent internally matters as much as externally. Naming Zoe and giving her a clear job description helped Zzzing's team understand where the AI started and stopped, which reduced resistance significantly.

  •  Test your own policies. Don't experiment on real guests. Make a test booking and run your AI through every scenario every few days. You are in the driver's seat and AI isn't taking over.

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

📣 The AI Ambassador Program

This episode is also brought to you in part by our AI Ambassador Program. If you're curious about using AI in your business - whether it's for guest communication, operations, or even marketing - check out our AI Ambassador Program. It's designed to help you learn, lead, and get hands-on with the tools shaping the future of hospitality.

🌐 Learn more and join us at VacationRentalFormula.com/AI


Are you listening to this podcast on the move? Get to the show notes here:

https://www.vacationrentalformula.com/podcast/VRS670