Ep. 8 - "Unlearning" What it Means to be Deeply Human: A conversation with Olivia Allen
Release Date: 12/23/2025
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info_outlineIn this episode of Worthy, Jessica sits down with spiritual psychologist and longtime friend, and co-host of the podcast “Broad Ideas”, Olivia Allen for an honest conversation about unlearning — unlearning the stories we’ve absorbed about self-worth, identity, and what it truly means to be deeply human.
Together, they explore the practice of releasing judgment around our emotions and instead meeting ourselves with curiosity, presence, and compassion. Olivia challenges the idea that confidence is required for growth, sharing why confidence is often overrated and how doing hard things without it is what actually builds real worth and inner value.
The conversation dives into self-worth beyond external validation, reminding us that we are born worthy — yet often have to unlearn the outside evidence our minds accept as truth. Olivia vulnerably reflects on past relationship patterns, including mistrusting people who saw her clearly, and how our beliefs about what we deserve shape what we desire and allow into our lives.
They also discuss the disconnect that can arise when our inner desires don’t match our behavior, and how sobriety became a powerful turning point in helping Olivia realign with her values, dreams, and sense of self. For anyone who feels pressure to define a single purpose, this episode offers permission to be multifaceted and to keep answering the call toward growth as it evolves.
Throughout the conversation, Jessica and Olivia explore intuition versus instinct, resistance, self-trust, and the ongoing process of unlearning what keeps us disconnected from ourselves.
Topics include:
unlearning • self-worth • emotional awareness • sobriety • inner validation • intuition vs instinct • personal growth • identity • relationships • purpose • self-trust
Don’t forget to check out Olivia’s amazing podcast, “Broad Ideas” wherever you get your podcasts…
Quick link here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/broad-ideas-with-rachel-bilson-olivia-allen/id1625760667
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