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6. Gatekeeping AAC: Can Programming a Child's Device Be More Collaborative?

Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast

Release Date: 04/29/2025

37. The Slippery Slope Fallacy & How It Shows Up When Supporting Autistic Students show art 37. The Slippery Slope Fallacy & How It Shows Up When Supporting Autistic Students

Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast

Grab your ticket to Coaching Week: Unlearning Control HERE!     In this episode, Nicole Casey explores the slippery slope fallacy, particularly in the context of child-led therapy and autism support. She discusses how the fear of losing control can lead to compliance-based approaches that hinder genuine connection and learning. By challenging these misconceptions, Nicole advocates for a more relationship-centered approach that honors children's autonomy while maintaining necessary boundaries. Through personal anecdotes and professional insights, she emphasizes the importance of...

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36. Is Push-In Therapy Best Practice for Autistic Kids? show art 36. Is Push-In Therapy Best Practice for Autistic Kids?

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  In this episode, Nicole Casey delves into the ongoing debate between pull-out and push-in therapy for autistic students in school settings. Drawing from her extensive experience, she discusses the effectiveness of both models, emphasizing the importance of individualized approaches and collaboration with teachers. Nicole shares personal anecdotes that highlight the impact of classroom environments on therapy outcomes and advocates for systemic changes to better support educators and students alike. The conversation encourages professionals to speak up and engage in meaningful...

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35. The Use of Control in Autistic Support show art 35. The Use of Control in Autistic Support

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Join the waitlist for my upcoming coaching week:   In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses the harmful effects of control in supporting autistic children, particularly through the lens of instructional control. She emphasizes the importance of building genuine relationships rather than relying on manipulative tactics that prioritize compliance over connection. Through personal anecdotes and critical analysis of common practices, Nicole advocates for a shift towards a child-led approach that fosters trust and autonomy.   Takeaways: The episode addresses the harmful effects of...

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34. Better Goal Writing Begins With Our Mindset (It's Not Woo!) show art 34. Better Goal Writing Begins With Our Mindset (It's Not Woo!)

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Grab the FREE Quickstart to Rubric-Goal Writing resource   In this conversation, Nicole Casey discusses her journey with goal writing, particularly for autistic students. She shares her struggles with traditional goal writing methods and introduces rubric-based goals as a more effective alternative. The discussion emphasizes the importance of mindset shifts in approaching goal writing, the need to question established norms, and the significance of aligning goals with personal and professional values. Nicole encourages educators and therapists to embrace new methods that better serve...

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33. The First 3 Communication Functions I Support With Autistic Students show art 33. The First 3 Communication Functions I Support With Autistic Students

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In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses the challenges faced by speech-language pathologists (SLPs) when supporting autistic students, particularly the difficulty of starting communication support without knowing the child well. She emphasizes the importance of a structured approach to identify key communication functions, such as asking for help, protesting, and directing actions. Nicole advocates for a child-led approach that empowers students to communicate authentically and autonomously, moving beyond traditional methods that may hinder their development. The conversation highlights the...

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32. Helping the Helpers: What Teams Really Need to Support Autistic Kids Well show art 32. Helping the Helpers: What Teams Really Need to Support Autistic Kids Well

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In this episode, Nicole Casey emphasizes the critical importance of collaboration among professionals supporting autistic students. She discusses the need for empathy, trust, and understanding within teams, particularly focusing on the roles of paraprofessionals and support staff. Nicole shares practical strategies for building relationships, advocating for change, and fostering a supportive environment that prioritizes the well-being of both students and staff. The conversation highlights the systemic challenges faced by educators and the necessity of a team-centered approach to effectively...

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31. Eye contact, Quiet Hands, and Calm Body – The Trifecta of Harm show art 31. Eye contact, Quiet Hands, and Calm Body – The Trifecta of Harm

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In this conversation, Nicole Casey challenges traditional notions of attention and connection in learning, particularly for autistic students. She emphasizes the importance of accommodating diverse sensory needs and creating an engaging learning environment that allows students to feel regulated and at ease, thus enhancing their ability to learn and engage. Takeaways We need to rethink how we understand connection and attention. Attention doesn't mean sitting still; it can look different. Accommodating a child's sensory system is crucial for learning. Creating an engaging environment helps...

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30. Building Yes Spaces So Autistic Kids Can Truly Lead show art 30. Building Yes Spaces So Autistic Kids Can Truly Lead

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In this episode of Let Them Lead, Nicole Casey discusses the concept of "yes spaces" in therapy and educational settings, emphasizing their importance for both autistic students and educators. She explains how creating environments where children can explore safely without constant redirection fosters authentic communication and co-regulation. Nicole shares practical tips for setting up yes spaces, highlighting the balance between freedom and safety, and the benefits for both students and educators. Takeaways: Creating yes spaces allows children to explore safely. Yes spaces reduce the need...

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29. It Wasn’t the Child: How a Broken System Led to My Concussion show art 29. It Wasn’t the Child: How a Broken System Led to My Concussion

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In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses the challenges and emotional impact of working with autistic children, focusing on incidents where educators face physical injuries. She shares personal experiences, emphasizing the need for systemic change and proactive support to prevent such situations. Nicole advocates for understanding over blame and highlights the importance of co-regulation and emotional safety. Takeaways We need to talk about the hard things to move forward. Injuries at work are not the child's fault. Systemic issues contribute to workplace injuries. Co-regulation is key to...

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27. It's Not Chaos: How to Explain Child-Led Therapy to Skeptical Parents and Teams show art 27. It's Not Chaos: How to Explain Child-Led Therapy to Skeptical Parents and Teams

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In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses how to handle situations where one's approach in therapy is questioned or judged. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the root of such questions, often stemming from fear, and advocates for a collaborative and curiosity-driven response rather than defensiveness. The conversation also touches on setting boundaries with colleagues and the challenges of implementing child-led therapy, highlighting the need for clear communication and shared goals. Takeaways When feeling questioned, it's important to pause and reflect. Defensiveness can hinder...

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In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses her unpopular opinion regarding AAC (Augmentative and Alternative Communication) and emphasizes the importance of personalization, motor planning, and empowering teams to engage with AAC devices. She challenges the notion that AAC programming should be left solely to specialists and advocates for a more inclusive approach that encourages collaboration among all team members. Nicole shares her experiences with a new student and highlights the significance of having a well-programmed AAC device that reflects the child's interests. She concludes by offering insights into her programming approach, which focuses on minor tweaks rather than extensive programming. In this conversation, Nicole Casey discusses the importance of personalizing AAC devices for children, emphasizing the need for individualized programming that reflects the child's preferences and relationships. She advocates for collaborative approaches to programming, utilizing technology for training and support, and establishing a point person for AAC programming within teams. Casey highlights the significance of empowering all team members to engage with AAC devices, ensuring that communication remains accessible and effective for children.
 
Takeaways:
  • Nicole believes that AAC programming should not be intimidating or exclusive to specialists.
  • Personalization in AAC devices is crucial for effective communication.
  • Motor planning is essential for AAC users to communicate efficiently.
  • Empowering all team members to engage with AAC devices enhances communication.
  • Celebrating small efforts in AAC programming can lead to significant progress.
  • The traditional specialist model can create barriers to AAC access.
  • Understanding a child's interests can guide effective AAC programming
  • We are not gatekeepers, we're guides.
  • Programming doesn't need to be all by one person.
 
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This podcast is reviewed by our team member, Meghann Beaton, who is an autistic adult. Meghann provides feedback and recommended edits priort to releasing our episodes to help ensure our content remains aligned with neuroaffirming principles and lived experience. We are deeply grateful for her insights, which continue to shape this space into one that centers safety, connection, and authentic communication.