32. Helping the Helpers: What Teams Really Need to Support Autistic Kids Well
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
Release Date: 12/23/2025
37. The Slippery Slope Fallacy & How It Shows Up When Supporting Autistic Students
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
Grab your ticket to Coaching Week: Unlearning Control HERE! In this episode, Nicole Casey explores the slippery slope fallacy, particularly in the context of child-led therapy and autism support. She discusses how the fear of losing control can lead to compliance-based approaches that hinder genuine connection and learning. By challenging these misconceptions, Nicole advocates for a more relationship-centered approach that honors children's autonomy while maintaining necessary boundaries. Through personal anecdotes and professional insights, she emphasizes the importance of...
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36. Is Push-In Therapy Best Practice for Autistic Kids?
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
In this episode, Nicole Casey delves into the ongoing debate between pull-out and push-in therapy for autistic students in school settings. Drawing from her extensive experience, she discusses the effectiveness of both models, emphasizing the importance of individualized approaches and collaboration with teachers. Nicole shares personal anecdotes that highlight the impact of classroom environments on therapy outcomes and advocates for systemic changes to better support educators and students alike. The conversation encourages professionals to speak up and engage in meaningful...
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35. The Use of Control in Autistic Support
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
Join the waitlist for my upcoming coaching week: In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses the harmful effects of control in supporting autistic children, particularly through the lens of instructional control. She emphasizes the importance of building genuine relationships rather than relying on manipulative tactics that prioritize compliance over connection. Through personal anecdotes and critical analysis of common practices, Nicole advocates for a shift towards a child-led approach that fosters trust and autonomy. Takeaways: The episode addresses the harmful effects of...
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34. Better Goal Writing Begins With Our Mindset (It's Not Woo!)
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
Grab the FREE Quickstart to Rubric-Goal Writing resource In this conversation, Nicole Casey discusses her journey with goal writing, particularly for autistic students. She shares her struggles with traditional goal writing methods and introduces rubric-based goals as a more effective alternative. The discussion emphasizes the importance of mindset shifts in approaching goal writing, the need to question established norms, and the significance of aligning goals with personal and professional values. Nicole encourages educators and therapists to embrace new methods that better serve...
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33. The First 3 Communication Functions I Support With Autistic Students
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses the challenges faced by speech-language pathologists (SLPs) when supporting autistic students, particularly the difficulty of starting communication support without knowing the child well. She emphasizes the importance of a structured approach to identify key communication functions, such as asking for help, protesting, and directing actions. Nicole advocates for a child-led approach that empowers students to communicate authentically and autonomously, moving beyond traditional methods that may hinder their development. The conversation highlights the...
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32. Helping the Helpers: What Teams Really Need to Support Autistic Kids Well
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
In this episode, Nicole Casey emphasizes the critical importance of collaboration among professionals supporting autistic students. She discusses the need for empathy, trust, and understanding within teams, particularly focusing on the roles of paraprofessionals and support staff. Nicole shares practical strategies for building relationships, advocating for change, and fostering a supportive environment that prioritizes the well-being of both students and staff. The conversation highlights the systemic challenges faced by educators and the necessity of a team-centered approach to effectively...
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31. Eye contact, Quiet Hands, and Calm Body – The Trifecta of Harm
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
In this conversation, Nicole Casey challenges traditional notions of attention and connection in learning, particularly for autistic students. She emphasizes the importance of accommodating diverse sensory needs and creating an engaging learning environment that allows students to feel regulated and at ease, thus enhancing their ability to learn and engage. Takeaways We need to rethink how we understand connection and attention. Attention doesn't mean sitting still; it can look different. Accommodating a child's sensory system is crucial for learning. Creating an engaging environment helps...
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30. Building Yes Spaces So Autistic Kids Can Truly Lead
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
In this episode of Let Them Lead, Nicole Casey discusses the concept of "yes spaces" in therapy and educational settings, emphasizing their importance for both autistic students and educators. She explains how creating environments where children can explore safely without constant redirection fosters authentic communication and co-regulation. Nicole shares practical tips for setting up yes spaces, highlighting the balance between freedom and safety, and the benefits for both students and educators. Takeaways: Creating yes spaces allows children to explore safely. Yes spaces reduce the need...
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29. It Wasn’t the Child: How a Broken System Led to My Concussion
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses the challenges and emotional impact of working with autistic children, focusing on incidents where educators face physical injuries. She shares personal experiences, emphasizing the need for systemic change and proactive support to prevent such situations. Nicole advocates for understanding over blame and highlights the importance of co-regulation and emotional safety. Takeaways We need to talk about the hard things to move forward. Injuries at work are not the child's fault. Systemic issues contribute to workplace injuries. Co-regulation is key to...
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27. It's Not Chaos: How to Explain Child-Led Therapy to Skeptical Parents and Teams
Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast
In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses how to handle situations where one's approach in therapy is questioned or judged. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the root of such questions, often stemming from fear, and advocates for a collaborative and curiosity-driven response rather than defensiveness. The conversation also touches on setting boundaries with colleagues and the challenges of implementing child-led therapy, highlighting the need for clear communication and shared goals. Takeaways When feeling questioned, it's important to pause and reflect. Defensiveness can hinder...
info_outlineIn this episode, Nicole Casey emphasizes the critical importance of collaboration among professionals supporting autistic students. She discusses the need for empathy, trust, and understanding within teams, particularly focusing on the roles of paraprofessionals and support staff. Nicole shares practical strategies for building relationships, advocating for change, and fostering a supportive environment that prioritizes the well-being of both students and staff. The conversation highlights the systemic challenges faced by educators and the necessity of a team-centered approach to effectively support autistic students.
Takeaways
- Collaboration is essential for supporting autistic students.
- Support staff need empathy and understanding from professionals.
- Building trust within teams enhances collaboration.
- Generosity and service are key values in education.
- Human connection is vital for effective teamwork.
- Practical strategies can improve support for colleagues.
- Advocating for systemic change benefits everyone in education.
- Self-care is important for professionals in high-stress environments.
- Paraprofessionals play a crucial role in student support.
- Creating a culture of trust leads to better outcomes for students.
Chapters
00:00 The Importance of Collaboration in Supporting Autistic Students
02:50 Understanding the Role of Support Staff
06:09 Building Trust and Empathy in Teams
08:40 The Impact of Systemic Issues on Support Staff
12:02 The Value of Generosity and Service
14:54 Creating a Supportive Environment for Team Members
17:45 The Need for Human Connection in Professional Relationships
20:44 Practical Strategies for Supporting Colleagues
23:37 Advocating for Team Morale and Culture
26:31 Balancing Self-Care with Team Support
29:51 The Role of Presence and Action in Team Dynamics
32:46 Understanding the Challenges Faced by Support Staff
35:37 The Importance of Listening and Empathy
38:22 Future Directions for Team Support and Collaboration
autism, collaboration, support staff, education, empathy, trust, teamwork, communication, advocacy, self-care