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Let Them Lead: The Child-Led Autism Podcast

Release Date: 07/01/2025

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Summary

In this episode, Nicole Casey discusses the challenges of implementing child-led approaches in systems that prioritize compliance and data collection. She emphasizes the importance of community support, building confidence in one's therapeutic approach, and making small shifts to create a more neuroaffirming environment for students. The conversation highlights the need for professionals to connect with like-minded colleagues and advocate for change, even in challenging work environments. In this conversation, Nicole Casey discusses the importance of empowering educators to adopt alternative approaches in their interactions with students, particularly those with communication challenges. She emphasizes the significance of reframing goals to prioritize connection, integrating sensory support, and navigating resistance within educational systems. Nicole also highlights the necessity of protecting one's energy while advocating for change, reminding listeners that every small shift contributes to a larger impact.

 

Takeaways:

  • Child-led approaches can be challenging in compliance-driven systems.

  • Small shifts can lead to significant changes in practice.

  • Community support is crucial for professionals feeling isolated.

  • Confidence in one's approach is essential to advocate for change.

  • Finding like-minded colleagues can enhance professional growth.

  • It's important to prioritize co-regulation in therapy sessions.

  • Data collection should not overshadow relationship building with students.

  • Advocacy can start with small, subtle changes in practice.

  • Toxic work environments can hinder professional development.

  • Empowerment comes from connecting with others who share similar values. Empowering educators to try alternative approaches can lead to significant changes.

  • Reframing goals to prioritize connection enhances the therapeutic process.

  • Integrating sensory support is crucial for student engagement and comfort.

  • Navigating resistance in educational systems requires patience and strategic communication.

  • Protecting your energy is essential for sustainable advocacy.

  • Small shifts in practice can lead to meaningful changes in student experiences.

  • Modeling empathetic approaches can inspire others to adopt new strategies.

  • Understanding the culture of a school can help in advocating for change.

  • Every moment of connection over control adds up to a larger impact.

  • You are not alone in your advocacy efforts; there is a community of support.

 

Keywords:

child-led therapy, neuroaffirming, systemic challenges, community support, confidence in therapy, small shifts, empowerment, education, autism support, professional development, education, advocacy, sensory support, child-led approach, communication, professional development, empowerment, reframing goals, resistance, burnout