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Destination On The Left

Release Date: 03/12/2025

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, Florence Li, Director of International Development for Songtsam Resorts, shares how her family-owned luxury boutique hotel collection has built its reputation by opening hidden doors to remote destinations in Tibet and Yunnan. She explains how Songtsam differentiates itself by offering immersive cultural experiences, empowering local communities through creative staffing solutions, and staying deeply committed to sustainability. Florence also highlights how the brand’s mission to preserve Tibetan culture and protect the environment resonates with...

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Adrienne Currie, Community & Marketing Manager at TAP, and Brittany Lynn, Senior Account Manager at TAP for the third installment of a special four-part series exploring the Model—a framework for creating integrated marketing plans that drive results in the travel, tourism, and hospitality industry. Our conversation shines a spotlight on the “S”—shared media, and Adrienne and Brittany dive into the strategies behind creating impactful social media campaigns, from identifying your target audience to understanding the value of...

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438. Earned Media Essentials for Tourism Marketers, with Colleen Onuffer show art 438. Earned Media Essentials for Tourism Marketers, with Colleen Onuffer

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Colleen Onuffer for the second installment of a four-part series exploring the Model—Paid, Earned, Shared, and Owned media—in integrated marketing. Colleen shares more about earned media: what it is, why it’s critical for building credibility, and how organizations in the travel, tourism, and hospitality industry can use it to tell their story more powerfully. From collaborating with influencers to maximizing media placements, she explains how earned media fits into the bigger picture and interacts with other parts of the PESO...

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436. Inspiring Confident Communication, with Karen Laos show art 436. Inspiring Confident Communication, with Karen Laos

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, we are doing something different. Earlier this month, we hosted a webinar on the effects of policy and headlines on cross-border tourism. This was the first of a series of community conversations that we will be hosting this year.

In this webinar, we invited 5 expert panelists to talk about Canadian-U.S. Tourism. The conversation was forward-focused and collaborative, and our panelists shared openly, candidly and provided actionable insights and ideas for strengthening cross-border tourism between Canada and the US. That is why we decided to replay the audio from this webinar here on Destination on the Left.

In this episode, you’ll hear from five inspirational tourism and travel media professionals:


Ideas to Build Community and Collaboration
We examine the impact of recent policy changes and tariffs on cross-border tourism between Canada and the US. Our knowledgeable industry experts share their perspectives on the current Canadian sentiment toward US travel, potential economic impacts, and the power of tourism as a connector during challenging times.

Vince Accardi, President of Ontario Motor Coach Association
Vince emphasizes the longstanding economic and cultural ties between Canada and the U.S. in tourism. He highlights the importance of staying invested in cross-border partnerships even during challenging situations and the importance of open communication and collaboration between tour operators, destinations, and consumers to counter the negative effects of current political climates.

Corey Fram, Director of Thousand Islands International Tourism Council
Corey shares insights from the unique position of a binational destination. He pointed out the historical patterns of cross-border travel challenges, such as those post-9/11, and the impact on travel sentiment. He also stresses the importance of maintaining face-to-face communication and building strong relationships at the local level to ensure continued collaboration across the border.

Richard Arnold, Owner of Atlantic Tours Canada
Richard discusses the deep-rooted connections between Atlantic Canada and the U.S., particularly New England. He frankly expresses that Canadians’ sentiments toward current political issues have also led to hurt feelings. However, he remains optimistic about the tourism sector’s resilience and values the importance of storytelling and media campaigns to remind Canadians and Americans of their longstanding friendly relations and shared histories.

Catherine Dawson March, Travel Writer and Editor of the Globe And Mail
Catherine offers her insights into the editorial perspective on the situation. She discusses the shift in Canadian sentiment toward travel to the U.S. due to current trade issues. Catherine highlights the challenge of running U.S.-focused stories during such times and expresses the responsibility of media professionals to handle content carefully to avoid inflaming existing tensions.

Christopher Mitchell, Canadian Travel Influencer from Traveling With Mitch
Chris speaks about maintaining personal and professional relationships beyond political narratives. While acknowledging the challenges posed by the current climate, Chris emphasizes the value of sharing local stories that highlight human connections and positive experiences. He stresses the role of travel influencers and creators in shaping narratives that transcend political disputes and support ongoing dialogue between Canadians and Americans.

It’s clear that despite the hurdles posed by tariffs and political rhetoric, the tourism relationship between these two countries remains resilient. The panel urges open communication, and strategic partnerships to nurture this vital economic and cultural bond. As communities, companies, and governments on both sides of the border navigate these complexities, the overarching message is one of patience, optimism, and a shared commitment to a future where tourism flourishes, unhindered by current and future challenges.

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