DT #642 Big Ideas, Bold Leadership with Mark C. Perna
Develop This: Economic and Community Development
Release Date: 05/06/2026
DT #671 Why Does Everyone Hate Data Centers? A Balanced Look at the Debate
Develop This: Economic and Community Development
Why are data centers generating so much debate in communities across the country? In this episode of Develop This!, sits down with to kick off a brand-new series exploring one of the most controversial topics in economic development: Why Does Everyone Hate Data Centers? Rather than taking sides, Dan encourages communities to ask better questions before making decisions. He explains why the conversation shouldn't simply be about saying "yes" or "no" to data centers, but about understanding their long-term impacts, evaluating tradeoffs, and ensuring projects create meaningful value for local...
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DT #672 Inside the 2026 IEDC Annual Conference: What to Expect in New Orleans
Develop This: Economic and Community Development
What can attendees expect from the 2026 IEDC Annual Conference in New Orleans? In this episode of Develop This!, sits down with , President and CEO of the , for an exclusive preview of the 2026 IEDC Annual Conference in New Orleans. As IEDC celebrates 100 years of economic development, Nathan shares how this milestone event will honor the profession's rich history while focusing on the innovations shaping its future. The conversation explores why New Orleans was selected to host the centennial conference and how the city's resilience, culture, and economic transformation make it the perfect...
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DT #668 AI Literacy: Small Business Capacity and the Return of Human Experience
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Artificial intelligence is no longer just a big tech conversation. For small businesses, microbusinesses, makers, solopreneurs, and entrepreneurs, AI literacy is quickly becoming a practical economic development issue. In this episode of Develop This!, talks with , Director of Education at , about what AI literacy really means for local businesses and why it matters for Main Street communities. The conversation explores how AI can help entrepreneurs build capacity, save time, strengthen marketing, improve operations, and make more informed decisions, especially for business owners who...
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DT #670 How Communities Create Opportunity Through Leadership and Collaboration
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How can communities create lasting economic mobility in a rapidly changing world? In this episode of Develop This!, speaks with about her remarkable career journey—from the White House and the Olympic movement to leading national initiatives focused on economic and community development. Drawing on decades of experience, Anne shares lessons on leadership, collaboration, and the importance of building authentic relationships around a clear mission. She explains how successful communities create momentum by aligning people, resources, and long-term goals around shared outcomes. A major focus...
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DT #666 The Cincinnati Growth Story: Collaboration, Talent, and Industry Leadership
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What’s driving Cincinnati’s rise as one of the Midwest’s most dynamic economic engines? In this episode of Develop This!, speaks with , CEO of , about the region’s rapid growth and the strategies positioning it as a national leader in innovation, investment, and industry. Kimm shares how Cincinnati has built momentum through a combination of regional collaboration, strong industry clusters, and a commitment to workforce development. The conversation highlights how partnerships across state lines are helping the region compete more effectively for investment and talent. A major focus...
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DT #667 Mastering Public-Private Partnerships and Business Growth Strategies
Develop This: Economic and Community Development
What can economic developers learn from a career that spans the public sector, entrepreneurship, and consulting? In this episode of Develop This!, speaks with , founder of , about her journey through economic development and the lessons that led her to launch her own consulting firm. Drawing on experience across multiple sectors, Ruth shares insights on navigating complex development projects, building trust among stakeholders, and helping communities move ambitious initiatives from concept to reality. A major theme throughout the conversation is continuous learning. Ruth discusses the...
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DT #664 30 Years of Site Selection Lessons from Matt Szuhaj
Develop This: Economic and Community Development
How is technology changing the way communities compete for investment and talent? In this episode of Develop This!, speaks with , EVP of , to explore more than three decades of change in site selection and economic development. Drawing on 30 years of experience, Matt shares how location strategy has evolved from a focus on cost and infrastructure to a more complex evaluation of talent, quality of life, community identity, and long-term competitiveness. A major focus of the conversation is artificial intelligence and its growing influence on economic development. Matt explains how AI is...
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DT #665 How Great Leaders Unite a Multi-Generational Workforce
Develop This: Economic and Community Development
How can leaders build stronger teams in a workplace shaped by multiple generations? In this episode of Develop This!, speaks with to explore how generational differences, economic realities, and rapid technological change are reshaping today's workforce. Mark shares insights into the strengths and challenges of working across generations—from Baby Boomers to Gen Z—and explains why understanding different perspectives is essential for building collaborative, high-performing teams. A major focus of the conversation is the changing economic landscape facing younger workers. Rising housing...
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DT #662 Why Trust, Talent, and Infrastructure Drive Site Selection Success
Develop This: Economic and Community Development
What separates communities that win major investments from those that get left behind? In this episode of Develop This!, speaks with , Vice President of , to explore the increasingly complex world of site selection and the factors shaping the future of U.S. manufacturing. Tess shares how companies evaluate locations through the lens of long-term risk, infrastructure capacity, workforce strength, and community readiness. With major investment decisions carrying consequences for decades, preparation and execution have never been more important. A major theme throughout the conversation is...
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DT #663 Data-Driven Economic Development in a Changing World
Develop This: Economic and Community Development
What does it take to build resilient communities in an era of rapid economic change? In this episode of Develop This!, speaks with , Executive Director of the , about the policies, partnerships, and strategies shaping economic growth across New York. Ryan shares insights on how data-driven decision-making is helping communities plan for the future, attract investment, and navigate increasingly complex economic challenges. From workforce development to infrastructure planning, the conversation highlights the importance of grounding strategy in reliable research and long-term thinking. A major...
info_outlineIn this inspiring episode of Develop This!, host Dennis Fraise sits down with Mark C. Perna to explore the power of bold thinking, visionary leadership, and rallying people around big ideas. Drawing on their shared fascination with the Apollo program, they unpack how the audacity of aiming for the moon transformed not just science—but an entire generation’s mindset.
From the iconic leadership behind the Apollo 11 Moon Landing to the forward-looking ambitions of the Artemis Program, this conversation connects the dots between space exploration and the work economic developers do every day: building momentum, inspiring communities, and executing bold visions.
Mark and Dennis reflect on cultural touchpoints, childhood wonder, and even the small details—yes, including Tang—that made space exploration feel personal and powerful.
If you’re working to energize your community, align stakeholders, or inspire the next generation, this episode offers a compelling reminder: big progress starts with big ideas.
Takeaway
The moon landing wasn’t just a technological achievement—it was a masterclass in leadership, collaboration, and belief. For today’s economic and community developers, the lesson is clear: when you set bold goals and invite others into the vision, you create momentum that can move mountains… or even reach the moon.