353: Wife hired an escort while I was working, Going to grad school to find a rich husband, Strategies for getting revenge
Release Date: 03/06/2025
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0:00 Teaser Clips & Intro
0:51 My wife hired an escort but says it wasn’t technically cheating!
19:01 I’m going to grad school to find a rich husband, but I’m not that into it
40:38 Scratching the psychological itch to get revenge
Question 1: Dear Dr. Lisle, I’m a 38 year old male and I work very long hours in finance. My wife, who is 27, and I have been going through a sort of dead bedroom situation for the past few months because I have been working 16-18 hours a day and sleeping about 4 hours per night. She is a housewife so she stays at home all day. Recently I just found out that my wife has been paying for and meeting with a male escort twice a week for the past three months while I was working. She confirmed that they did sleep together every time they met. She says that this is not technically cheating because she paid for his consent, so basically he didn’t want to have sex with her, he just did it for money so this shouldn’t count as cheating. She said there are no romantic feelings between them, but she hired the same guy for the past three months so obviously she’s attracted to him. Then she tried to blame it on me for working too much and not being there for her. Maybe I’m overreacting, but I feel heartbroken and betrayed. Is she right in saying that hiring an escort doesn’t count as cheating? Who is in the wrong here, me for working too much and neglecting her, or her for paying for sex and companionship outside the marriage? I don’t know if I should stay with her or not, I love her but I’m furious with her for taking advantage of my good nature and spending thousands of dollars of my hard earned money so she can sleep with someone else.
Question 2: Is it wrong to go to grad school with the primary goal of finding a smart, conscientious, potentially rich husband? I’m a second year dental school student, but I’m honestly here mostly to put myself in an environment surrounded by intelligent hardworking men, so I can have something in common with them and make them see me as wife material. I’m also hoping the repeat exposure would help. I am scraping by in school, passing but not too passionate about it as my main goal in life is to be a housewife to a rich husband. I’m just hoping to use the doctorate degree as an accessory to attract these men. Am I wrong in the way I’m thinking? P.S. Otherwise, where would I meet such men, on dating apps? I don’t think so.
Question 3: Does Dr. Lisle have any strategies for scratching the psychological itch to get revenge when someone has wronged you? Over two years ago, a long term “friend” betrayed me in an undeniable way and never acknowledged it or seemed remorseful. We are no longer friends and don’t even talk, but have many mutual friends so he is somewhat in my life. I feel that he owes me a debt and sometimes ruminate about it. I have a near constant underlying feeling that I want him to experience the shock and betrayal that I did, and that I would be willing to facilitate it if I could. I try to put my energy into developing other, more authentic relationships and into healthy living. Is living well actually the best revenge? I am not feeling that yet and would like to serve it cold instead. Any thoughts?
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