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Release Date: 06/30/2025

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Podcast Introduction (00:00:08) Hosts introduce the Lucky 13 Podcast and themselves, setting the tone for the episode.

Personal Updates & Family Stories (00:00:26) Josh discusses his daughter's wedding, family anecdotes, and Mike shares updates about his children.

The Importance of Personal Connections at Work (00:02:47) Emphasizes checking in with employees about personal and professional highlights to build culture.

Lou Gehrig Shoutout & Baseball Anecdotes (00:03:15) Shoutout to Lou Gehrig (the local business owner), discussion about the origin of "Wally Pipp" in baseball.

Transition to Data in Business (00:05:31) Shifts focus to the main topic: the role of data in solving business frustrations.

Frustration 1: Control & Predictability (00:05:53) How data provides control, focus, and predictability in business operations.

Data Accuracy & Leading Indicators (00:07:51) Importance of accurate data and using leading indicators for proactive decision-making.

Frustration 2: Profit Management (00:09:00) Using data to manage profit, including a discussion of the "Profit First" book and methodology.

Profit First Method Explained (00:09:55) Details on implementing the profit first approach and its impact on business spending.

Frustration 3: People & Accountability (00:12:36) How data helps create accountability and clarity in employee roles and performance.

Measuring Performance with Data (00:12:55) Assigning numbers to roles, regular check-ins, and the importance of clear expectations.

Data for Hiring and Avoiding Bloat (00:14:32) Using data to determine when to hire and prevent organizational bloat.

Clarifying Profit vs. People (00:15:16) Discussion on balancing profit and people, and the responsibility of business owners.

Accountability Runs Both Ways (00:16:18) Employees can use data to demonstrate performance and negotiate expectations.

Frustration 4: Hitting the Ceiling/Plateau (00:17:00) Recognizing and addressing business plateaus using data to identify bottlenecks.

Signs of Plateau & Talent Standards (00:18:02) Indicators of plateau, importance of maintaining talent standards, and using data for growth.

Building a Sustainable Organization (00:19:58) Comparisons to sports and music; using data to build lasting success, not just one-hit wonders.

Change is Inevitable—Plan with Data (00:20:49) Emphasizes planning for change and using data to anticipate shifts in business.

Frustration 5: When Nothing is Working (00:21:28) How to use data to diagnose and address business crises or stagnation.

Inspecting the Business Model (00:22:18) Evaluating if the business model is outdated or needs change, with examples from Kodak and Blockbuster.

Importance of Historical Data (00:23:27) Need for consistent, long-term data tracking to identify trends and avoid guesswork.

Identifying Key Data Points (00:24:46) Focus on collecting the most impactful data for business decision-making.

Behavioral Reactions to Data (00:25:50) Using data to drive behavioral changes and address business frustrations.

Podcast Wrap-Up (00:26:24) Final thoughts on the importance of data and closing remarks.