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It wasn’t only Tulsa

Release Date: 06/01/2021

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Repost of our episode on Stolen History

EPISODE SUMMARY

America has historically had a short attention span when it comes to racial inequality. There has been a tendency to get riled up over episodes of intolerable racism, but (1) allowing the righteous indignation to fade over time, and (2) ignoring the everyday denials of human dignity and equality. Jim Crow and white supremacy have a large, extended family. Sometimes they have come on horses in the dark of night. Sometimes they have worn suits and sat in large government or corporate buildings. Too often, “outrageous” racial incidents begin to shape the narrative and define the limits of tolerance, allowing other forms of racism to recede from the discussion.

So, yes, let’s remember Tulsa, but it wasn’t just Tulsa.

In this episode, the hosts explore how historical incidents of violence against Black communities, (such as the Tulsa and Rosewood massacres) are lost, minimized, or sanitized when the narrative is controlled by persons who place less value on the lives of people in those communities.

A FEW KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

The realities of eugenics and massacres in history
How history books have been sanitized and students only get a partial picture of what events, some not even mentioned
Things were no better at an earlier time. Rights, narratives, people being vilified, and movements against minorities are not new and give points of reference for contextualizing law. But it's important to get complete, accurate information.

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