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This episode of Eye on the Target Radio featured two very different but compelling conversations. The first half focused on the NRA Whittington Center and its role as one of the premier shooting and outdoor recreation facilities in the country. Host Amanda Suffecool interviewed Nate Brown about his journey from Wyoming and the oil and gas industry into nonprofit conservation work and eventually into the NRA. Brown explained that his passion for preserving Second Amendment freedoms and America’s outdoor heritage led him into fundraising and nonprofit work before relocating to New Mexico to work at the Whittington Center.

Brown described the immense scale of the Whittington Center, which spans roughly 33,000 acres, with only a small portion developed into shooting ranges and facilities. The center includes pistol bays, silhouette ranges, law enforcement training areas, long-range shooting facilities, cabins, camping areas, and extensive wilderness. He emphasized that the property blends shooting sports with wildlife conservation, noting the abundance of mule deer, bears, mountain lions, and other wildlife that coexist around the ranges. Amanda discussed her own experiences attending the Women’s Wilderness Escape at the center and highlighted how overwhelming—but exciting—the facility can feel for first-time visitors.

The conversation also focused heavily on accessibility and encouraging newcomers. Brown explained that visitors can attend structured classes and events or simply purchase a day pass or annual membership to use the ranges independently. He acknowledged that the size of the facility can be intimidating and encouraged new visitors to stop at the visitor center, ask questions, and request tours or guidance. The discussion covered lodging options ranging from cabins to dispersed camping and emphasized the center’s desire to become more user-friendly through improved online booking and visitor resources. Throughout the segment, both hosts stressed the importance of introducing more people to shooting sports and responsible firearms culture in a welcoming environment.

The second half of the program shifted to an interview with author Liz Lazarus, discussing her upcoming thriller novel Dawn Before Darkness. Lazarus explained that the novel combines elements of stalking, guardianship abuse, and psychological suspense. Inspired partly by real stories from women who experienced stalking and by her own difficult legal battle involving guardianship of her mother, Lazarus crafted a story that blends entertainment with cautionary legal and personal safety lessons.

Lazarus described how she interviewed numerous women about their stalking experiences and incorporated those accounts into the novel’s antagonist. She also detailed her own experience fighting through probate and guardianship court after family disputes over her mother’s care led to a third-party guardian being appointed. The discussion explored how vulnerable families can become when legal paperwork, wills, powers of attorney, and healthcare directives are not properly prepared or accessible. Amanda shared a personal story about the importance of having medical power-of-attorney documents readily available during emergencies, reinforcing one of the book’s central messages about preparedness.

The interview also explored Lazarus’s writing process and publishing journey. She discussed her earlier novels, including Free of Malice, which was inspired by her own experience surviving an attack in college. Lazarus explained the distinctions between suspense novels, thrillers, and psychological thrillers, noting that her books often blend all three genres while incorporating themes of firearms safety, self-protection, and legal realities. She spoke about the challenges of researching difficult topics, including interviewing people about stalking and even researching what it feels like to be shot in order to realistically portray scenes in the book.

Toward the end of the segment, Lazarus described the realities of modern publishing, explaining that writing the book itself is often easier than marketing it. She talked about working with public relations teams, using social media influencers, attending conferences, and building connections with readers to gain visibility in a crowded publishing world. The hosts closed by encouraging listeners to preorder Dawn Before Darkness and explore Lazarus’s earlier standalone novels.