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ep 28 Customer Experience - the good the bad and the ugly

CEO Bros - After Hours

Release Date: 08/22/2025

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CEO Bros - After Hours

Brad runs full throttle intentionally. He knows if he operates at 100%, his leadership captures 70%. Their teams? 50%. Front line? 30%. That's why he inspects what he expects. If you don't verify, your message dies three levels down. Brian sees it differently. Rock hits a pond, ripples weaken. His brand message starts at 100%, hits 50% by sales. This is episode 50. The degradation principle.  *YOU'LL DISCOVER* • Brad's degradation theory: running at 70% means your team runs at 30% • How brand messages lose 50% power by the time they reach customers • The "inspect what you expect"...

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Ep 49 Money mistakes entrepreneurs need to avoid show art Ep 49 Money mistakes entrepreneurs need to avoid

CEO Bros - After Hours

Brian was bringing on new customers when he ran out of money. Brad knows entrepreneurs who bought boats while their businesses were still bleeding cash. One of Brian's investors would ask him the same two questions every time they met: "How's your wife and what are you driving?" One question's about divorce. The other's about expensive cars that kill businesses before they get off the ground. Your baseline shifts without you even noticing. You start buying things and suddenly your expectations are different. Brad calls it lifestyle creep. This is episode 49. What entrepreneurs get wrong about...

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Brad asks for exactly 15 minutes. At 14 minutes and 59 seconds, he stands up and leaves. Doesn't matter if they're interested or want him to stay. He asked for 15 minutes, that's what he takes. Most salespeople overstay. Brad walks out while they're still engaged. Next meeting, they already know he respects time. No bracing for a pitch that won't end. This is episode 50. How to actually close deals instead of just talking about closing. *YOU'LL DISCOVER* • Brad's 15-minute rule: leaving on the number gets more second meetings • VHT Studios closed 10,000 units in Jacksonville, Orlando said...

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CEO Bros - After Hours

Looking for mentorship but keep finding people who don't actually help? Brian never joined a formal program. He asked questions at lunch. David Robin had just sold Chicago's biggest real estate firm and was stuck in a non-compete. He couldn't work but could advise. Brian kept asking. Robin kept answering. Decades later, they still meet. Brad built his company by admitting "I don't know" while other CEOs fake it. His wise man was Brian, who helped him build everything (but won't accept credit.) This is episode 46. How to find your wise man when programs and LinkedIn don't work. *YOU'LL...

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CEO Bros - After Hours

Two CEO brothers. One podcast. Zero filters. 45+ episodes of business stories, lessons, disasters and triumphs you need to hear. Mark Cuban email wars at 2am. Climbing forklifts to reach your girlfriend's window. National hotel chains spending $80K on pool diarrhea warning signs. See some of the more memorable moments when the guys discuss and debate the ups, downs and just plain craziness of business from the perspective only two brothers, each with 35+ years of running different businesses, could share. This is CEO Bros - after hours. The year in review.  The moments that made this...

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ep 46 Compensation - The ins and outs of building a successful compensation strategy for your business show art ep 46 Compensation - The ins and outs of building a successful compensation strategy for your business

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Brad's finance team noticed something weird in the 2026 budget and called the payroll company. The payroll company had no idea what they were talking about. Turns out 2026 has 27 pay periods instead of 26 if you're running bi-weekly payroll, and this hasn't happened in over a decade. It won't reverse itself in 2027 either. If you're not budgeting for that extra paycheck right now, you're heading for a cash crisis in December. Then comes the fun part. Brad has to tell 580 employees their paychecks are getting smaller. They think he's cutting their pay. He's not, it's the same annual salary,...

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Brian's Monday ritual for years: write 100 letters by hand, stuff 100 envelopes, stick on 100 stamps, drop them at the post office. Every single week. Not emails. Not LinkedIn messages. Physical letters that landed on decision-makers' desks when everything else got filtered by assistants or spam folders. Most founders won't do this. It's tedious. It's analog. It feels outdated. But Brian's pipeline never ran dry because he did the work nobody else wanted to do. Meanwhile Brad's watching restaurants with incredible food go under in six months because they perfected their menu but nobody knows...

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Brad refuses to outsource billing even when people ask. When healthcare got hacked, competitors with outsourced teams went bankrupt. Brad walked down the hallway, his team solved it. Brian built VHT by outsourcing everything that wasn't core. He could shut down when season ended. Variable costs kept him alive. Then he got acquired by engineers who refused to outsource anything. Speed died. This is episode 44. Two brothers, opposite strategies, both made money.  *YOU'LL DISCOVER* • Why Brad will never outsource billing after the healthcare hack • Brian's survival strategy: turn...

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ep 42 Building an elite leadership team for your business show art ep 42 Building an elite leadership team for your business

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You’re One Decision Away From Becoming a Better Leader Every entrepreneur eventually faces one question that defines their entire company: 👉 Do you surround yourself with highly experienced leaders… or do you develop raw talent into the leaders you want? In this episode of CEO Bros After Hours, two seasoned CEOs break down their completely opposite approaches — and the lessons may surprise you. Brian Balduf, co-founder of VHT Studios, believes in hiring proven leaders with deep experience who can move fast, deliver results immediately, and hit the ground running. Brad Balduf, CEO of...

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The Art of the Client Experience

This episode of ‘CEO Bros - after hours ‘captures an unplanned debate among three hosts, initially sparked by a minor disagreement about culinary terms like "gravy" versus "sauce." The discussion quickly shifts to a critical examination of customer experience, primarily using Chipotle as a case study. The hosts explore issues such as inconsistent food portions for online versus in-store orders, the impact of private equity firms on service quality, and the challenge of maintaining customer satisfaction across different ordering methods (in-person, phone, online). They emphasize the importance of valuing every customer equally and the need for businesses to adapt operations to changing consumer behaviors. The conversation ultimately highlights that small details in client interaction can significantly influence brand loyalty and overall business success.

 

Core Theme: The central theme running through the provided discussion excerpts is the critical importance of a holistic and consistent "client experience" for businesses in today's evolving market. The guys, through their debate on Chipotle and other examples, underscore that neglecting any aspect of customer interaction, no matter how small, can lead to significant brand damage and lost revenue. While the discussion initially veered towards "pivoting" in business strategy, it consistently returned to the fundamental need for businesses to adapt and excel in their customer service delivery across all channels.

 

Key Ideas and Facts:

  • Chipotle's Client Experience Challenges:

  • Inconsistent Food Portions: 

  • Inefficient Online Order Integration: 

  • Lack of Dedicated Online Order Processing: 

  • Perception of Quality Degradation post-PE Acquisition: 

  • Historical Food Contamination (E.coli): 

  • The "Tip" Acronym and Customer Service History:

  • The Equivalence of All Customers:

  • The Need for a Dedicated Client Experience Owner:

  • Proactive Communication: 

  • "Fast Lane" for High-Value Customers (VHT Studios Example): 

  • The Importance of "Little Details":

 

The discussion frequently returns to the idea that seemingly minor details can significantly impact the customer experience. Examples include McDonald's' focus on the strength of plastic forks and the width of milkshake straws, or the disheveled appearance of Burger King's flame-grilled burgers. 

Brian stresses that business leaders and founders should personally experience their products and services to identify and fix issues. 

 

 

This episode serves as a robust reminder for entrepreneurs and business leaders that a superior client experience is non-negotiable for sustained success. The shortcomings of Chipotle in managing their online ordering system highlight the consequences of failing to adapt operational strategies to new customer behaviors. The guys advocate for a comprehensive approach where every customer is valued, operational efficiencies are implemented without sacrificing quality, and meticulous attention is paid to every detail of the customer journey. The ultimate takeaway is that an excellent client experience is not merely a competitive advantage, but a fundamental requirement for business survival and growth.