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ep 30 Brand and Branding - Hits and Misses

CEO Bros - After Hours

Release Date: 09/05/2025

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CEO Bros - After Hours

Brad runs full throttle intentionally. He knows if he operates at 100%, his leadership captures 70%. Their teams? 50%. Front line? 30%. That's why he inspects what he expects. If you don't verify, your message dies three levels down. Brian sees it differently. Rock hits a pond, ripples weaken. His brand message starts at 100%, hits 50% by sales. This is episode 50. The degradation principle.  *YOU'LL DISCOVER* • Brad's degradation theory: running at 70% means your team runs at 30% • How brand messages lose 50% power by the time they reach customers • The "inspect what you expect"...

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Ep 49 Money mistakes entrepreneurs need to avoid show art Ep 49 Money mistakes entrepreneurs need to avoid

CEO Bros - After Hours

Brian was bringing on new customers when he ran out of money. Brad knows entrepreneurs who bought boats while their businesses were still bleeding cash. One of Brian's investors would ask him the same two questions every time they met: "How's your wife and what are you driving?" One question's about divorce. The other's about expensive cars that kill businesses before they get off the ground. Your baseline shifts without you even noticing. You start buying things and suddenly your expectations are different. Brad calls it lifestyle creep. This is episode 49. What entrepreneurs get wrong about...

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CEO Bros - After Hours

Brad asks for exactly 15 minutes. At 14 minutes and 59 seconds, he stands up and leaves. Doesn't matter if they're interested or want him to stay. He asked for 15 minutes, that's what he takes. Most salespeople overstay. Brad walks out while they're still engaged. Next meeting, they already know he respects time. No bracing for a pitch that won't end. This is episode 50. How to actually close deals instead of just talking about closing. *YOU'LL DISCOVER* • Brad's 15-minute rule: leaving on the number gets more second meetings • VHT Studios closed 10,000 units in Jacksonville, Orlando said...

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ep 47 Finding and working with the ideal mentor(s) show art ep 47 Finding and working with the ideal mentor(s)

CEO Bros - After Hours

Looking for mentorship but keep finding people who don't actually help? Brian never joined a formal program. He asked questions at lunch. David Robin had just sold Chicago's biggest real estate firm and was stuck in a non-compete. He couldn't work but could advise. Brian kept asking. Robin kept answering. Decades later, they still meet. Brad built his company by admitting "I don't know" while other CEOs fake it. His wise man was Brian, who helped him build everything (but won't accept credit.) This is episode 46. How to find your wise man when programs and LinkedIn don't work. *YOU'LL...

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CEO Bros - After Hours

Two CEO brothers. One podcast. Zero filters. 45+ episodes of business stories, lessons, disasters and triumphs you need to hear. Mark Cuban email wars at 2am. Climbing forklifts to reach your girlfriend's window. National hotel chains spending $80K on pool diarrhea warning signs. See some of the more memorable moments when the guys discuss and debate the ups, downs and just plain craziness of business from the perspective only two brothers, each with 35+ years of running different businesses, could share. This is CEO Bros - after hours. The year in review.  The moments that made this...

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ep 46 Compensation - The ins and outs of building a successful compensation strategy for your business show art ep 46 Compensation - The ins and outs of building a successful compensation strategy for your business

CEO Bros - After Hours

Brad's finance team noticed something weird in the 2026 budget and called the payroll company. The payroll company had no idea what they were talking about. Turns out 2026 has 27 pay periods instead of 26 if you're running bi-weekly payroll, and this hasn't happened in over a decade. It won't reverse itself in 2027 either. If you're not budgeting for that extra paycheck right now, you're heading for a cash crisis in December. Then comes the fun part. Brad has to tell 580 employees their paychecks are getting smaller. They think he's cutting their pay. He's not, it's the same annual salary,...

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CEO Bros - After Hours

Brian's Monday ritual for years: write 100 letters by hand, stuff 100 envelopes, stick on 100 stamps, drop them at the post office. Every single week. Not emails. Not LinkedIn messages. Physical letters that landed on decision-makers' desks when everything else got filtered by assistants or spam folders. Most founders won't do this. It's tedious. It's analog. It feels outdated. But Brian's pipeline never ran dry because he did the work nobody else wanted to do. Meanwhile Brad's watching restaurants with incredible food go under in six months because they perfected their menu but nobody knows...

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CEO Bros - After Hours

Brad refuses to outsource billing even when people ask. When healthcare got hacked, competitors with outsourced teams went bankrupt. Brad walked down the hallway, his team solved it. Brian built VHT by outsourcing everything that wasn't core. He could shut down when season ended. Variable costs kept him alive. Then he got acquired by engineers who refused to outsource anything. Speed died. This is episode 44. Two brothers, opposite strategies, both made money.  *YOU'LL DISCOVER* • Why Brad will never outsource billing after the healthcare hack • Brian's survival strategy: turn...

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ep 43  When inside issues get out show art ep 43 When inside issues get out

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ep 42 Building an elite leadership team for your business show art ep 42 Building an elite leadership team for your business

CEO Bros - After Hours

You’re One Decision Away From Becoming a Better Leader Every entrepreneur eventually faces one question that defines their entire company: 👉 Do you surround yourself with highly experienced leaders… or do you develop raw talent into the leaders you want? In this episode of CEO Bros After Hours, two seasoned CEOs break down their completely opposite approaches — and the lessons may surprise you. Brian Balduf, co-founder of VHT Studios, believes in hiring proven leaders with deep experience who can move fast, deliver results immediately, and hit the ground running. Brad Balduf, CEO of...

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The Enduring Power of Brand and Branding

 

This Episode of ‘CEO Bros - after hours’ centers on the critical importance of branding and brand identity for businesses, ranging from startups to established corporations. The hosts explore how a company's core essence (brand) differs from its outward communication (branding), using examples like Seven Up's logo change and Cracker Barrel's controversial modernization efforts. They also consider the challenges and strategies involved in rebranding, debating whether companies should adapt to stay relevant or remain true to their foundational values, citing cases such as Apple's evolution and Dunkin's shift away from an exclusive focus on donuts. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes that a strong, well-conceived brand and consistent branding are vital for long-term success and customer loyalty.



Branding and Business Longevity: 

I. The Fundamental Distinction: Brand vs. Branding

A central theme of the discussion is the critical difference between "brand" and "branding."

 

II. Case Studies in Branding and Rebranding

The discussion explores several real-world examples to illustrate the complexities and potential pitfalls of branding efforts.

A. Cracker Barrel: The Danger of Drifting from Core Identity

B. Dunkin' (Donuts): A Strategic Compromise

C. Apple: Successful Brand Transformation

 

III. The Importance of Thoughtful Brand Conception for Entrepreneurs

The episode strongly emphasizes that brand and branding are not afterthoughts but fundamental to a business's long-term success.

  • Don't Take It for Granted: 

  • Long-Term Vision: 

  • Personal Connection: 

  • Beyond the Logo: 

  • The “long” Process: 

IV. Strategic Foresight and Adaptation: Essential for Longevity

A significant portion of the discussion is dedicated to the importance of anticipating future challenges and strategically pivoting the brand.

  • Proactive Planning: 

  • Netflix as a Case Study: 

  • Rental Car Companies and the Future: 

  • Staged Transition: 

  • AI and Emerging Technologies: 

  • The Mall Train Example: 

 

V. The Power of Taglines

Taglines are presented as a powerful element of branding, capable of instantly conveying a company's essence or aspiration.

  • Instant Recognition: 

  • Aspirational Messaging: Bose's tagline 

  • Strategic Positioning: Avis's "We try harder"

 

The discussion concludes by reiterating the foundational importance of brand and branding. Entrepreneurs and established companies alike must approach these aspects with serious consideration, long-term vision, and a willingness to adapt strategically to an ever-changing landscape. Overlooking the deliberate crafting and maintenance of a brand and its communication can lead to a lack of "staying power" and ultimately, business failure.