261. The Pursuit of More

Welcome back to the podcast. Today we want to talk about something that we think almost every family can relate to—the pursuit of more. More money, more success, more stability, more opportunities, more experiences. And on the surface, none of those things are bad. But recently, we’ve both had some conversations and experiences that made us pause and ask a deeper question: what are we really pursuing—and why?

For most of our lives, we both felt this constant pull toward “more.” And if we’re honest, a lot of it came from the belief that the next milestone would finally be the thing that made us feel whole, fulfilled, or enough. Whether it was financial success, recognition, or even just a sense of stability, it felt like if we could just get there, everything would click. But what we’ve come to realize—and what we’ve seen in others—is that it often becomes an endless pursuit. You reach one level, and there’s always another. And if the pursuit is rooted in comparison or trying to prove something, it can feel surprisingly empty.

What’s been helpful for us is redefining what “more” actually means. Because more itself isn’t the problem. In fact, when you look at the original meaning of the word, it wasn’t about accumulation—it was about becoming greater. Growth. Expansion. And that shift has been really powerful. Instead of chasing more things, we’ve been asking: what would it look like to pursue more purpose, more fulfillment, more impact? And to do that from a place where we already believe we’re enough—not from a place of trying to prove it.

We’ve also seen how this shows up in family life. It’s not just about what we pursue individually—it’s what we create for our kids. It’s easy to get caught in the mindset of more activities, more opportunities, more experiences, thinking that’s what will create a better life for them. But sometimes it just creates more noise, more pressure, and more overwhelm. And the truth is, with how much access we have today—technology, comparison, constant input—it’s easier than ever to fall into that cycle without even realizing it.

For us, one of the most grounding questions has been this: what is all of this for? Not in a negative way, but as a way to realign. Are we building something that actually leads to a meaningful life? Are we pursuing more in a way that helps us become better, serve others, and live with purpose? Because at the end of the day, more isn’t the enemy—but if we don’t define it intentionally, it can quietly take us somewhere we never meant to go.

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Episode Minute By Minute:

• 00:00 – Intro + recent trips and conversations
• 01:30 – The “endless pursuit of more”
• 03:00 – Why more doesn’t always lead to fulfillment
• 04:30 – Defining “more” in a meaningful way
• 06:00 – How life has changed over the last 100 years
• 07:30 – Why we’re overwhelmed with options today
• 09:00 – The original meaning of “more” (growth vs accumulation)
• 10:30 – A personal story: rebuilding life and chasing more
• 12:00 – The shift: from building our kingdom to serving something bigger
• 13:30 – Asking: what is all of this for?
• 14:30 – Final takeaway: pursue becoming, not just having