How to Motivate Your Fitness Staff with Gamification and Recognition with Alex Grande | Episode 555
Fitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Release Date: 02/19/2026
Fitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Stories do what facts alone cannot. They make people feel, remember, trust, and act. In this special season finale takeover, master storyteller Danielle Krischik (podcast host and author of The Story Effect) flips the mic and interviews JT so you can hear the real reason behind the Fitness Business Podcast, , and JT’s mission to get more people moving in quality facilities with qualified professionals. Key highlights from the episode: Why storytelling shifts your brand from what you sell to why you exist How JT’s early life, sport, and career pivot shaped his leadership style The...
info_outlineFitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Burnout is not a badge of honor. For years, working 22-hour days and never taking holidays was worn as proof of resilience. But the reality is different. A 2025 study published in the American Journal of Preventative Medicine estimates burnout costs employers between $4,000 and $21,000 per employee per year in lost productivity, disengagement, and turnover. In this Wise Words episode, Justin Tamsett sits down with clinician, scientist, and founder of New Approach Health, Emahlea Wilcher, to unpack what burnout really is, how it impacts your body and brain, and what you can do right now to...
info_outlineFitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Staff turnover remains one of the biggest challenges in the fitness industry, especially with part time and casual teams. In this episode, Justin Tamsett is joined by Alex Grande, psychologist and workplace recognition expert, to unpack how gamification, rewards, and genuine recognition can dramatically improve engagement, performance, and retention in fitness businesses. Alex explains the science behind motivation, the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic drivers, and why simple, low cost recognition programs often outperform expensive incentive schemes. Together, they explore practical...
info_outlineFitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
If your body and mind are the engine of your leadership, what fuel are you putting into it? In this episode of The Fitness Business Podcast, Justin Tamsett sits down with Heather Wise Soubra, founder and CEO of Wiser Way Coaching and Director of the George Washington Leadership Institute at Mount Vernon. Heather shares powerful, practical insights on self-leadership—exploring how clarity, presence, values, habits, and alignment shape not just how we lead others, but how we lead ourselves first. This conversation is especially relevant for fitness business owners and leaders navigating...
info_outlineFitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Hiring the right people can make or break your fitness business. One great hire can elevate culture, performance, and profitability — while one poor hire can drain time, money, and momentum. In this episode, Justin “JT” Tamsett sits down with Christine Howe, founder of Fit Pro Finders and one of the most experienced recruiters in the global fitness industry, to unpack what it really takes to find, interview, and retain top talent today. From AI in recruitment to interviewing techniques, compensation strategy, onboarding, and resume red flags, Christine shares practical, experience-driven...
info_outlineFitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Retail inside fitness clubs often feels like a high-effort afterthought - but according to retail strategist Meredith Rosson, it’s one of the most untapped revenue streams in the industry. In this episode, Meredith breaks down how clubs can turn merchandise, apparel, accessories, and grab-and-go essentials into a meaningful secondary income source. With real numbers, practical frameworks, and a powerful client case study, she shows exactly how clubs of any size can create retail programs that elevate experience, drive fandom, and generate serious profit. If you’ve ever wondered what to...
info_outlineFitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Persuasion expert Michelle Bowden, whose episode 83 on the Fitness Business Podcast ranks in the all-time top 20, is back to break down the science of influence and how to connect with every prospect and member. If you want to boost sales, retention, and team member engagement without resorting to manipulative tactics or "buyer's remorse," this episode is a must-listen. Michelle explains the difference between influence and authentic persuasion, introduces her four persuasion types, and gives practical, 1% tips you can implement today to become a stronger communicator and get more of what you...
info_outlineFitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Discover the surprising power of "Radical Customer Obsession" with author and expert Amanda Stevens. She explains that in a digitally distracted world, the key to success is getting to the heart of what your customers really need, not just what they tell you. From understanding the "Inner Circle" dynamic of female members to learning from other industries, this episode is packed with brilliant insights on how to create a "sticky" business that defies market pressures and turns customers into disciples. Key highlights from the episode: - Know Your Customer Intimately: Get "insanely curious"...
info_outlineFitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Discover the surprising science behind conscious leadership with Rachel Russo, who reveals how a simple pause and breath can activate your brain’s logic center and shift your leadership style from reactive to responsive. Fitness leaders will learn how journaling daily not only calms the mind but improves immune function and creativity. Plus, explore how self-awareness builds trust and collaboration in fitness teams where knowing your body meets leading your people. Ready to transform your leadership muscle and tackle your blind spots? This episode is packed with powerful insights and...
info_outlineFitness Business Podcast: Leadership, Innovation, and Profit
Curious how technology will redefine fitness? Tune in as fitness industry thought leader Eric Malzone shares his front-line insights after 850+ interviews with fitness visionaries! Discover eye-opening truths on AI, member retention, and industry innovation - all filtered through Eric’s experience from gym owner to podcasting powerhouse. Whether you’re an operator, trainer, or entrepreneur, this episode delivers actionable trends and practical advice to future-proof your business and inspire your next move in fitness. Key highlights from the episode: - How AI will transform...
info_outlineStaff turnover remains one of the biggest challenges in the fitness industry, especially with part time and casual teams. In this episode, Justin Tamsett is joined by Alex Grande, psychologist and workplace recognition expert, to unpack how gamification, rewards, and genuine recognition can dramatically improve engagement, performance, and retention in fitness businesses.
Alex explains the science behind motivation, the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic drivers, and why simple, low cost recognition programs often outperform expensive incentive schemes. Together, they explore practical examples fitness business owners can implement immediately, from peer to peer shoutouts and leaderboards to automation using everyday tools like Microsoft Teams and Excel.
If you want a more motivated team without burning yourself out as a leader, this episode is a must listen.
Key highlights from the episode:
-
Why recognition from managers is often more powerful than praise from executives
-
How gamification increases engagement without relying only on cash rewards
-
The SAPs framework and how to use status, access, power, and rewards with staff
-
How peer to peer recognition strengthens culture and retention
-
Practical, low cost gamification ideas for fitness businesses
-
How automation tools can make recognition consistent and easy
Curious about the future host of Fitness Business Podcast? That's Zoe, the host JT's daughter!
Got value from today’s episode?
✔ Leave us a review on your favorite podcast app
✔ Send us a voicemail at fitnessbusinesspodcast.com/leaveusavoicemail
✔ Share this episode with a colleague who wants to build a stronger team
Ready for more:
✔ Become an FBP Insider and get 7 days FREE to start! Learn more on Patreon: https://patreon.com/FitnessBusinessPodcast
✔ Our FREE LIVE online events created specifically for fitness business owners, managers, and coaches who want to sharpen their skills and grow their business - Learn More: https://fitnessbusinesspodcast.com/onlineevents
✔ Call in and let JT know if you think this has been the best season: https://fitnessbusinesspodcast.com/leave-us-a-voicemail/
✔ Leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts: https://fitnessbusinesspodcast.com/review/
Quotes:
“We underestimate how meaningful it is to stop and say thanks, and the impact it can create.” - Alex Grande
“Recognition from a manager is more meaningful than from an executive, oftentimes because the manager knows more about that person.” - Alex Grande
“People want to be appreciated and people want to be heard.” - Alex Grande
Jump Ahead:
(00:03:00) What Reward and Recognition Really Mean in Fitness Businesses
(00:05:00) Intrinsic vs Extrinsic Motivation and the SAPs Framework
(00:06:00) The Psychology of Recognition and Why It Works
(00:07:00) Why Manager Feedback Matters More Than Executive Praise
(00:09:00) What Gamification Looks Like in a Real World Workplace
(00:11:30) Using Status, Access, Power, and Rewards to Motivate Staff
(00:14:30) Peer to Peer Recognition and Building Stronger Team Culture
(00:18:00) Automating Recognition with Microsoft Teams and Power Automate
(00:22:00) Engaging Part Time and Casual Staff Through Recognition
(00:26:30) How to Start a Recognition Program Without Overthinking It
Resources:
✔ Become an FBP Insider on Patreon: https://patreon.com/FitnessBusinessPodcast
✔ Fitness Business Podcast’s LinkedIn Community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9878228/
✔ Mystery Shopping for Fitness Businesses: https://mysteryshoppingforfitnessbusinesses.com.au/
Recommended Books:
✔ Drive by Daniel Pink
✔ Influence: The Art of Persuasion by Robert Cialdini
Resources Mentioned:
✔ Microsoft 365 Tools
✔ Zapier
✔ Notion
Our Guest:
Alex Grande, Founder & CEO of Recognize
✔ Website: https://recognizeapp.com/
✔ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgrande/
Merch Sponsor:
Be a Merch Sponsor - https://fitnessbusinesspodcast.com/merch/
REX Roundtables:
Website: www.REXRoundtables.com
Email: Eddie@REXRoundtables.com
A heartfelt thank you to the partners who support The Fitness Business Podcast:
- Les Mills USA: Creates pre-choreographed group fitness classes and offers home workouts. https://www.lesmills.com/us/
- Referrizer: Provides automated marketing, referral, lead, and reputation management for local businesses. https://referrizer.com/
- Energy Lounger: Sells the EnergyLounger, a full-body red and near-infrared light therapy device. http://www.energylounger.com/
- Real Leader Fitness: Manufactures and sells commercial fitness and gym equipment. https://www.realleaderfitness.com/
- The Covery: Offers wellness, hormone replacement, weight loss, and aesthetic treatments. https://www.thecovery.com/
“What we leave behind is not set in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.”
About Our Guest: Alex Grande is an entrepreneur and workplace innovation expert who combines gamification with HR technology to help organizations build stronger, more connected cultures.
As the founder of Recognize, a social employee engagement SaaS platform, he helps companies improve communication, recognition, and retention through behavioral science and thoughtful design. With a degree in psychology and published research in unconscious bias and social cognition, Alex brings an evidence-based, human-centered approach to creating recognition programs that drive lasting cultural change.
About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society.
Please note: We only recommend products we care about (affiliate links support our free content). Thank you for your support!