VISITORS: Danny Sheehan (UAP Disclosure, the Vatican's Secret, and the Fight for Truth)

Danny Sheehan is one of the most consequential public interest attorneys of the last century. His cases include the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, the Karen Silkwood case, the Iran-Contra investigation, and decades of work at the intersection of government secrecy and the public's right to know. He is co-founder of the Romero Institute and the New Paradigm Institute, and a leading voice in the push for congressional UAP disclosure. Today, he stands at the center of what may be the most consequential question humanity has ever faced: the implications of a potential extraterrestrial or extradimensional non-human presence here on Earth.

Having spent over 50 years litigating against government secrecy and winning, in this discussion, Danny connects the JFK assassination, the Vatican's role in the 1933 Italy UFO crash, the founding of the CIA, and the architecture of Brown Brothers Harriman to the UFO cover-up we're living through today, and lays out the concrete constitutional path to disclosure.

Big thanks to Jamie Billings for helping make this interview happen, and to Danny and his wife for their time and generosity.

The New Paradigm Institute, founded by acclaimed civil rights and Constitutional attorney Danny Sheehan, is dedicated to advocating for the public release of information held by the government surrounding the issue of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), or what was commonly known as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs). For more information, visit http://newparadigminstitute.org.

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00:00 Intro
00:30 Welcome and guest introduction
02:33 Reaction to WAR.gov/UFO and Pete Hegseth's framing
04:43 Danny's faith in the American people
07:06 JFK and Khrushchev's secret disarmament letters after the Cuban Missile Crisis
09:23 Why the assassination happened and its fallout
11:44 The Gulf of Tonkin lie and the collapse of trust in government
14:07 Coming to grips with UAP reality and the national security state
16:23 1968 vs. today: has Trump set disclosure back?
18:47 Why the world's religious communities may lead reform, not governments
21:05 Jesus, telepathy, and the evolution of human consciousness
23:23 Why the Vatican has withheld information, and why the Jesuit order was founded to reform the Church
25:48 Pope Pius XII and the 1933 UFO crash in Italy
28:11 The "Magenta" case and what Italy/Germany did with the craft in WWII
30:37 1945: Roswell, Aztec, White Sands, and the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023
32:57 Roots of the national security state: the U.S. invasion of Russia in 1917
35:10 Brown Brothers Harriman, the Dulles brothers, and the Treaty of Versailles
37:28 George Herbert Walker, Union Banking Corp, and financing the Third Reich
39:28 Trump's $1.5 trillion nuclear modernization plan and why UFOs are watching
41:42 Who are "they"? On multiple species and the unknown galactic order
43:50 Congress's constitutional authority over classification (Youngstown Sheet & Tube v. Sawyer)
46:12 A message to young people and why participation matters
48:34 How lawmakers respond to pressure, and the strategy for the 2026 midterms
53:10 Recapping the Contact in the Desert panel: Jacques Vallée, Tim Gallaudet, Eric Davis, and the question nobody would answer
57:42 What first convinced Danny this was real
59:49 Deathbed testimonies and how a trial lawyer evaluates truth
1:02:11 Danny's real concern: not fear of ET, but fear of losing ourselves to them
1:04:38 Archival fieldwork: the Army War College, Wild Bill Donovan, and the McGregor Project
1:09:24 Who to trust in the UFO community: Eric Burlison, Tim Burchett, and others
1:11:46 Hope for 2026 and beyond: decent people in Congress and a path forward
1:14:07 Closing thoughts and how to get involved

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