Why is Adolescence a Powerful Time for Growth, Agency, and Mattering? | Ronald Dahl
Release Date: 10/29/2025
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info_outlineIn this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Dr. Ronald Dahl, a distinguished pediatrician and developmental scientist from UC Berkeley, to explore the transformative potential of adolescence. Together, they discuss why adolescence is not just a period of vulnerability but also a dynamic window of opportunity for learning, growth, and authentic contribution. Dr. Dahl highlights the importance of fostering agency, mattering, and experiential learning environments that allow young people to feel valued and empowered. From the neuroscience of brain plasticity to the actionable steps educators and leaders can take to create supportive systems, this conversation dives deep into how we can rethink adolescent development and learning. Tune in for insights on building authentic connections, navigating challenges, and creating spaces where young people can thrive and make meaningful contributions.
Outline
- (06:53) The Science of Adolescent Development
- (13:19) The Importance of Mattering and Contribution
- (19:48) Agency, Autonomy, and the Adolescent Experience
- (26:02) Technology, Learning, and Agency in Youth
- (33:09) Work, Civic Engagement, and Experiential Learning
- (39:31) Wisdom, Policy, and Closing Reflections
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