loader from loading.io

Controlling What You Can When Everything Else Falls Apart featuring Khalil Zahar

The Dad Edge Podcast

Release Date: 09/04/2026

Why Only 12% of Marriages Are Actually Thriving show art Why Only 12% of Marriages Are Actually Thriving

The Dad Edge Podcast

This week's Alliance Q&A is one I think a lot of you will relate to, even if you've never said it out loud. A member named Eric brought a question on behalf of a close friend who's in a genuinely rough season with his marriage, arguments about a job, about help around the house, about who's doing enough for the kids. Rather than treat it as a surface-level scheduling problem, we spent this entire episode digging into what's actually happening underneath, because I've coached enough men to know the surface complaint is almost never the real issue. We get into the real needs driving most...

info_outline
Finding Your Finding Your "Why Not" When Everything Feels Unbearable featuring Baruch HaLevi

The Dad Edge Podcast

Baruch HaLevi opens this conversation with a statistic most listeners have never heard: every 13 minutes in America, a man dies by suicide, and men account for roughly 80% of all suicide deaths. For Baruch, this isn't abstract. He's lost family members to suicide across multiple generations, and he candidly shares that he himself came close to the same fate about a decade ago, during a period of profound identity loss after stepping away from 20 years as a rabbi. Grounded in the work of Holocaust survivor and psychiatrist Viktor Frankl, Baruch and Larry talk through what actually helps a man...

info_outline
Raising Kids Who Have Raising Kids Who Have "A Battle" Worth Fighting For featuring John Sapiente

The Dad Edge Podcast

John Sapiente never planned to become a charitable force in the veteran community, he just wanted to play golf with a celebrity at a charity gala. That single decision in 2013 led him to a life-changing weekend with military families, a friendship with Folds of Honor founder Lt. Col. Dan Rooney, and eventually the creation of Volition America, a lifestyle apparel brand that has raised over $2 million for veteran and first responder families by donating 13% of profits, a number tied to the 13 folds of the American flag. In this conversation with Larry, John shares the origin story behind brand...

info_outline
Why Rusty Relationships Keep 78% of Men Stuck featuring Marc Hildebrand show art Why Rusty Relationships Keep 78% of Men Stuck featuring Marc Hildebrand

The Dad Edge Podcast

For the second time, Marc Hildebrand flips the format and puts Larry in the interview seat, this time to unpack the five things men consistently say changed everything after joining the Dad Edge Business Boardroom Brotherhood: clarity, challenge, strategy, accountability, and brotherhood. Using real, anonymized member stories, Larry walks through how the group helps a business owner named Taylor rebuild connection with his wife using the four pillars of marriage and three levels of listening, why "rusty relationships" built on enabling friends keep 78% of men stuck, and why vague goals like...

info_outline
What Your Kids Learn From Watching You Eat featuring Abbey Sharp show art What Your Kids Learn From Watching You Eat featuring Abbey Sharp

The Dad Edge Podcast

Abbey Sharp has built an audience of over 2.5 million people calling out nutrition misinformation as a registered dietitian, and in this conversation she and Larry cut through some of the biggest confusion facing dads right now: the seed oil panic, the rise of "looks maxing" and muscularity-focused disordered eating in men, and how to feed a house full of picky kids without turning dinner into a nightly battle. Larry gets unusually candid about his own relationship with fitness and body image, and Abbey offers a grounded, non-restrictive framework for approaching food that she built out of her...

info_outline
Controlling What You Can When Everything Else Falls Apart featuring Khalil Zahar show art Controlling What You Can When Everything Else Falls Apart featuring Khalil Zahar

The Dad Edge Podcast

I've had a lot of impressive guests on this show, but Khalil Zahar's story genuinely stood out to me. He's the founder and CEO of FightCamp, a company he built from a simple idea, wanting to actually measure his own progress as a boxer, into one of the biggest names in connected fitness, with over $100 million raised and backing from legends like Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather, and Georges St-Pierre. He's also not married and doesn't have kids, but the lessons he's built his entire career around, discipline, discomfort, and identity, translate directly to fatherhood and marriage. We started...

info_outline
What to Do When Your Teen Is Struggling Mentally show art What to Do When Your Teen Is Struggling Mentally

The Dad Edge Podcast

This week's Wednesday Q&A is a little different, I'm running it solo since my usual co-host Joe couldn't make it, and honestly, it turned into one of the harder, more important conversations we've had. A man in our Alliance named Rich called in with a genuinely difficult situation: his 17-year-old stepdaughter recently went through a breakup, was hospitalized shortly after making statements about wanting to end her life, and Rich is trying to figure out how to support her while also being honest that he's not sure whether what he's seeing is a real crisis or a manipulation tactic she's...

info_outline
The Unspoken Expectations Quietly Wrecking Your Marriage featuring Jessica & Larry Hagner show art The Unspoken Expectations Quietly Wrecking Your Marriage featuring Jessica & Larry Hagner

The Dad Edge Podcast

Gentlemen, welcome to the fourth and final episode of this month's series with my wife Jessica, and I want to start by saying thank you for showing up for this one, since August actually had five Fridays this year, which means she recorded a full bonus episode she didn't have to do. Today we're tackling something that trips up more marriages than almost anything else: roles and expectations, and specifically, all the unspoken assumptions about who does what that quietly cause resentment when they're never actually talked about. Jessica and I get into the finances first, how I took over bill...

info_outline
Loneliness Is a Crisis and the Answer is Community featuring Don Ross show art Loneliness Is a Crisis and the Answer is Community featuring Don Ross

The Dad Edge Podcast

Don Ross is the founder of Manhood Tribes, a former pastor of 20 years who now works in digital marketing and has spent over two decades helping men cut through the noise around masculinity and build real brotherhood. Married 22 years with two boys, he's built his work around five marks of manhood and, more recently, helping men prepare for what he believes are the biblical end times. This is a unique episode. Don walks Larry through the specific signs he sees converging right now, the nation of Israel and the temple, the move toward digital currency, and the gospel reaching every ethnic...

info_outline
The One Word That Quietly Makes or Breaks a Marriage featuring Jessica & Larry Hagner show art The One Word That Quietly Makes or Breaks a Marriage featuring Jessica & Larry Hagner

The Dad Edge Podcast

Larry is back in studio with his wife Jessica for the fourth installment of their couples series, recorded the same month they hit 23 years of marriage and 30 years of knowing each other. This time the whole conversation centers on one word that quietly makes or breaks a marriage: alignment. Most couples, Larry notes from a decade of coaching, are misaligned on parenting, money, intimacy, and faith, and never realize it until it derails their connection. Larry and Jessica walk through how they actually got aligned over 22 years, from choosing experiences over stuff and a backyard over a sports...

info_outline
 
More Episodes

I've had a lot of impressive guests on this show, but Khalil Zahar's story genuinely stood out to me. He's the founder and CEO of FightCamp, a company he built from a simple idea, wanting to actually measure his own progress as a boxer, into one of the biggest names in connected fitness, with over $100 million raised and backing from legends like Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather, and Georges St-Pierre. He's also not married and doesn't have kids, but the lessons he's built his entire career around, discipline, discomfort, and identity, translate directly to fatherhood and marriage.

We started with the pivotal moment in his early 20s, a late night watching Sportscenter, that made him realize he didn't have unlimited time to become who he wanted to be. From there we got into his philosophy around seeking discomfort intentionally, why he believes identity has to come before outcome, and what it actually means to become the person who does the things you want to be known for, rather than chasing the result directly. He shared a personal story about training around a serious injury by controlling everything he could, his nutrition and mindset, when he couldn't control his body, and I shared a nearly identical story from my own torn patella tendon recovery.

We closed the conversation on what Khalil calls the mindset of a fighter, discipline, craftsmanship, accepting what you can't control, and learning to be genuinely thankful for your losses instead of resentful of them. If you've ever felt too comfortable, stuck in a rut, or unsure how to push yourself toward the version of you that you know is possible, this conversation gives you a real, practical way to start.

 

Timeline Summary

[1:04] Khalil's early 20s awakening: a late night realization that time wasn't unlimited

[3:36] His teenage dream of becoming a professional B-Boy and the intimidating scene around it

[7:00] The first concrete steps he took once he decided to stop just "trying a little"

[9:25] How Khalil's relationship with failure changed once he actually started taking risks

[12:20] Larry announces a rare, small-group preview of the Dad Edge Business Boardroom Brotherhood

[12:37] Why embracing failure sooner would have changed everything, and Thomas Edison's light bulb story

[14:31] Taking the first, smallest possible step instead of trying to see ten miles ahead

[16:34] A full introduction to Khalil: FightCamp's founder, backed by Tyson, Mayweather, and Saint-Pierre

[18:11] Khalil's controversial philosophy: why seeking discomfort matters more than self-acceptance alone

[21:39] Practical advice for a man who feels too comfortable and stuck in a "dad bod" mindset

[22:01] The core idea: identity comes first, and outcomes follow from who you decide to become

[25:21] Larry announces Roommates to Soulmates cohort three, starting September 16th

[27:16] Diving deeper into identity versus tactics, using Khalil's 13 bodybuilding competitions as an example

[32:18] Why seeking discomfort is fundamentally about removing fear, not chasing a specific outcome

[35:51] Confidence built through keeping your word to yourself, even when you don't feel like it

[36:43] What the mindset of a fighter actually looks like, broken into four core principles

[38:18] The first principle: discipline as doing what you don't want to do

[39:48] The second principle: craftsmanship, applying full care and attention to everything you touch

[40:31] The third principle: you can't control your opponent, only how you prepare and react

[42:17] The fourth principle: losses and failure are praised in martial arts, not resented

[44:10] Larry's own story of controlling what he could control during a torn patella tendon recovery

[45:32] Khalil shares a strikingly similar story recovering from a severe hand injury

[49:17] Where to find Khalil and FightCamp

 

Five Key Takeaways

  1. Time is not unlimited, and the sooner you accept that, the sooner you stop just "trying a little" and start actually pursuing the version of yourself you want to become.

  2. Identity comes before outcome. Instead of fixating on the result you want, define who that person would be and start living like them today, and the outcome tends to follow naturally.

  3. Confidence isn't built by achieving a goal once, it's built by consistently keeping your word to yourself, especially in the small moments when you don't feel like following through.

  4. You cannot control your circumstances, your opponent, or the environment around you. The only thing you control is how you prepare for and respond to what happens, and real peace comes from focusing there instead.

  5. Losses and failure should be treated as lessons to be thankful for, not outcomes to resent. A fighter's mindset toward getting knocked down and getting back up applies directly to marriage, parenting, and business.

 

Links & Resources

 

Closing

What's staying with me from this conversation is Khalil's point that losses are meant to be praised, not resented, because that's exactly the mindset a marriage and a family need too. You're not going to get every season right, and neither is your wife or your kids, but treating a setback as a lesson instead of a verdict on who you are changes everything about how you recover from it. Whatever discomfort you've been avoiding lately, in your body, your business, or your relationships, let this be the nudge to take the smallest next step toward it.