Elder Awesome: Barry Barkan on Saging, Sufficiency, and the Power of Paradigm Shifts
Release Date: 08/06/2025
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info_outlineHost Susan Ryan sits down with visionary eldercare advocate and Pioneer Network co-founder Barry Barkan for a profound conversation on reimagining aging and the transformative potential of community, spirit, and consciousness.
Barkan shares his journey from founding the Live Oak Institute to helping launch the Pioneer Network, driven by a belief that aging is not a problem to solve but a gift to elevate. He recounts his efforts to create a regenerative, inclusive community at the Jewish Home in Oakland—an idea that initially faced rejection but ultimately gained momentum and global influence, including a successful expansion into 15 homes in Israel.
But this conversation goes beyond history. Barry offers a deeply reflective vision for a paradigm shift—a movement from a worldview rooted in domination and separation to one grounded in interconnection, kindness, and sufficiency. He challenges listeners to see humanity as one living being, where every person and every creature matters.
Together, Susan and Barry explore the concept of “Elder Awesome” and moving beyond traditional notions of “elder care.” They also discuss the “Tao of Blessings”—a personal path to leave grace in every encounter
Barkan offers his vision for communities and care environments rooted in equity, dignity, and accountability.