HPRS Podcast – Episode 75: Camille Herron, The Truth
The Human Potential Running Series Podcast
Release Date: 12/04/2025
The Human Potential Running Series Podcast
Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. Episode 80 is Part 3 of a 3 part series on The State of Ultrarunning. In the conclusion of this three-part series, HPRS owner and race director John LaCroix delivers his most raw and data-backed "State of the Sport Address" to date. Using 21 years of longitudinal data from Colorado and beyond, John pulls back the curtain on the "Ghost Race" phenomenon, the math of corporate greed, and the reality of the permit ceiling facing federal land use. This episode features an opening reflection by Dr. Jacob Ambrose on the "AuDHD" (Autism &...
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Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. Episode 79 is Part 2 of a 3 part series on The State of Ultrarunning. In this part, John and guests Gordon Harvey, Mike Gamp, and Megan Storms tackle the increasingly complex world of land management, legal liability, and the "tragedy of the commons" currently facing ultrarunning. John pulls back the curtain on how some race directors are operating in "gray areas" to bypass permit restrictions—and how these short-sighted decisions are triggering a massive ripple effect that threatens access for everyone, from running stores to...
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Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. Episode 78, is the first installment of a special three-part series, where HPRS Race Director John Lacroix sits down with guests Gordon Harvey, Mike Gampp, and Megan Storms to pull back the curtain on the current state of the ultrarunning industry. Part 1 focuses on the friction between "old school" trail culture and the high-gloss world of modern influencers. From the impact of film crews on the runner experience to the legal and permitting repercussions of high-profile rule-breaking, the group explores if the sport is losing its...
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Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. In Episode 77, HPRS Race Director John Lacroix offers insights into the story that was The Franklin Mountains Trail Runs for HPRS. Hear the story of how HPRS came to own the Franklin Mountains Trail Runs, the trials and tribulations we endured over the 5-years hosting the event in El Paso, and what led to the decision to sell the race to Wanderlust Running, including lessons learned, a thank you, and a goodbye. For our El Paso running family.
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Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. In Episode 76, HPRS Race Director John Lacroix welcomes special guest Izzy Davis, a Colorado native now living in Kellogg, Idaho. Izzy ran the Sangre de Cristo 100 Mile as her first trail race, first ultra, and first hundred miler. With no crew and no pacer, she won outright in 29 hours, 23 minutes. This conversation starts with the race and quickly turns into the real story. Izzy is a ski patroller turned avalanche forecaster with the Idaho Panhandle Avalanche Center. She is built around risk management, spreadsheets, and...
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Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. In Episode 75, HPRS Race Director John Lacroix welcomes special guest Camille Herron. For the first time, Camille has an opportunity to speak her whole truth about the Wikipedia and World 24-Hour Championship "scandals" that have left a negative mark on her reputation uninterupted and unedited. Together, John and Camille explore her neurodivergence and how it intersects with her sensivity for justice, and how that has led to her being a whistleblower in the sport. Then, they explore Camille's AuDHD diagnosis, what it's like to be...
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Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. In Episode 74, HPRS Race Director John Lacroix discusses ultramarathon running hero Camille Herron. John starts by highlighting the mission, vision, and ethos of HPRS; how we've created a safe space for all adventurers to explore, themselves and the outdoors, within a supportive community where belonging is valued. Then he reviews the "Wikipedia Controversy" involving Camille Herron from September 2024, before jumping into talking about recent events with Camille Herron and the 24-Hour World Championships. John highlights how the...
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Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series Podcast. In Episode 73, HPRS Race Director John Lacroix sits down with Andrew Buck Michael, a meteorologist from Ohio and host of the Weathering the Run podcast. Together, they explore the strange and beautiful relationship between weather, running, and resilience; and how much of our training happens in conditions we can’t control. Andrew shares how he grew up on an Ohio farm watching storm clouds roll in with his dad, how that early curiosity turned into a career in broadcast meteorology, and how running became the outlet that grounded him...
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Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. In Episode 72, HPRS Race Director John Lacroix discusses the power of civil discourse, the importance of empathy, and the enduring impact of national events on our community. John reflects on the legacy of September 11th, the recent tragedy involving Charlie Kirk, and the value of open-minded conversation, even with those we may disagree with. He also shares personal stories from his two decades in trail and ultra running, exploring the roots and evolution of the sport, the challenges of advocacy, and what it means to protect the...
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Take a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. For Episode 71, HPRS Race Director John Lacroix and co-hosts Thomas Stott and Megan Storms reveal an exciting project spearheaded by Tommy. In this episode, we crack open a big idea: the future Human Potential documentary. Not a highlight reel. Not a brag piece. But a raw, honest exploration of what it really means to show up on trails, in all your humanness, and become something more. John shares the deeper vision behind the project and how it connects to our core belief in Human Potential. They discuss a 10-part docuseries unfolding...
info_outlineTake a run with The Human Potential Running Series podcast. In Episode 75, HPRS Race Director John Lacroix welcomes special guest Camille Herron. For the first time, Camille has an opportunity to speak her whole truth about the Wikipedia and World 24-Hour Championship "scandals" that have left a negative mark on her reputation uninterupted and unedited. Together, John and Camille explore her neurodivergence and how it intersects with her sensivity for justice, and how that has led to her being a whistleblower in the sport. Then, they explore Camille's AuDHD diagnosis, what it's like to be diagnosed as an adult, and the challenge to re-meet the self you thought you already knew. They discuss her new mission in advocacy for a sport that needs to be more inclusive of those who struggle with AuDHD sensority sensitivities. A truly not to be missed conversation.