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EP258 - Why MSPs Need to Think More Strategically About Marketing with Nicola Moss and Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

Release Date: 11/09/2025

EP285 - Beyond Recruitment-  How to Attract and Retain the Right Staff with Zoe Chatley and Ian Luckett show art EP285 - Beyond Recruitment- How to Attract and Retain the Right Staff with Zoe Chatley and Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we go beyond recruitment and explore what it really takes to attract and retain the right staff in your MSP.     Many MSP owners tell us that finding good people feels harder than ever. They advertise roles, interview candidates, and still end up wondering why the right people are not applying, or why talented team members leave after a short period of time.     The truth is that attracting and retaining the right staff starts long before you post a job advert.     ...

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EP284 - The MSP Owner Bottleneck: Every MSP Needs a Superhero Until It Wants to Scale with Ian Luckett show art EP284 - The MSP Owner Bottleneck: Every MSP Needs a Superhero Until It Wants to Scale with Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I want to help you break free from one of the biggest growth blockers I see in the MSP world, the MSP Owner Bottleneck. If you constantly feel pulled into every issue, every escalation, every client conversation, and every decision inside your business, then this episode is for you. I unpack why so many MSP founders become the superhero inside their organisation, how that behaviour develops over time, and why it eventually limits scale, leadership growth, profitability, and even the long-term value of the business itself.  ...

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EP283 - MSP Channel Insights Panel- Cybersecurity, Compliance and Resilience – with Neil Smith, Gene Kim, David Clarke, and Ian Luckett show art EP283 - MSP Channel Insights Panel- Cybersecurity, Compliance and Resilience – with Neil Smith, Gene Kim, David Clarke, and Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we explore what it really takes for MSPs to build a strong foundation in cybersecurity, compliance, and resilience in a world where risk is constantly evolving. In this special roundtable session, I am joined by Neil Smith, Gene Kim, and David Clarke, who each bring deep, practical experience from the front line of cybersecurity and compliance within the MSP space.     You will hear how the role of the MSP has shifted from simply managing IT systems to becoming a central part of how businesses manage risk. As...

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EP282 - Why Should I Attend the 2026 MSP Show in London with Aaron Fletcher, Alexandra Harris and Ian Luckett show art EP282 - Why Should I Attend the 2026 MSP Show in London with Aaron Fletcher, Alexandra Harris and Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we explore why the 2026 MSP Show in London is becoming one of the most valuable events for MSP owners and their teams who want clarity, direction, and real progress in their business. I am joined by Aaron Fletcher and Alexandra Harris, the driving force behind the event, who share what makes this year’s show such a powerful opportunity for growth.     This is not about turning up to another event and walking away with a bag of merchandise. This is about making a conscious decision to invest time in learning, connecting, and...

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EP281 - Stop Working IN Your MSP - Make It Work For You - with Mit Patel, Darren Strong, Paul Green and Ian Luckett show art EP281 - Stop Working IN Your MSP - Make It Work For You - with Mit Patel, Darren Strong, Paul Green and Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I sit down with Mit Patel, Darren Strong, and Paul Green for a powerful panel discussion focused on one of the biggest challenges MSP owners face, how to stop working in your MSP and start building a business that works for you.     This is a topic I see come up time and time again. Many MSP owners start from a technical background, and before they know it, they are deep in the day to day, solving problems, firefighting, and carrying the weight of the business on their shoulders. If you want to stop working in your MSP, there has...

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EP280 - R&D Tax Relief for MSPs – Are You Missing Out on Thousands with Jack Davies and Ian Luckett show art EP280 - R&D Tax Relief for MSPs – Are You Missing Out on Thousands with Jack Davies and Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I want to share something that I know many MSPs have either overlooked or been unsure about, and that is R&D tax relief for MSPs, and how it could potentially put thousands back into your business when approached in the right way.     I am joined by Jack Davies, who has been working closely with our community for several years now, helping MSPs understand how R&D tax relief for MSPs actually works in practice. I will be honest, when I first came across this, I was sceptical. Like many of you, I wanted to be...

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EP279 - How to Build a High Performing Team – MSP Show Power Panel with Zoe Chatley, Julie Hutchison, Phylip Morgan,  and Ian Luckett show art EP279 - How to Build a High Performing Team – MSP Show Power Panel with Zoe Chatley, Julie Hutchison, Phylip Morgan, and Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we explore what it really takes to build a high performing team inside your MSP, and why so many leaders feel stuck when trying to get there. I am joined by an expert power panel featuring Zoe Chatley, Phylip Morgan, and Julie Hutchison, bringing together real world experience from leadership, recruitment, and growth to give you practical insight into how to move from confusion to clarity when building your team.     The conversation opens with a simple yet powerful truth. Every business is moving from...

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EP278 - How to Properly Stand From the Crowded MSP Marketplace with Mit Patel and Ian Luckett show art EP278 - How to Properly Stand From the Crowded MSP Marketplace with Mit Patel and Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we sit down with Mit Patel to explore what it truly takes to stand out in a crowded MSP marketplace. This is a grounded and practical conversation that cuts through noise and focuses on what actually drives growth, profitability, and long-term success. Mit Patel brings nearly 25 years of experience in the MSP space, having scaled his own business to 8 million in revenue with strong margins, and now supporting the industry in a new way.    Early in the conversation, Mit Patel shares his journey from...

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EP277 - When Good Teams Go Wrong with Julie Hutchison and Ian Luckett show art EP277 - When Good Teams Go Wrong with Julie Hutchison and Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I talk about what really happens when good teams go wrong and how MSP leaders can rebuild trust, communication, and performance before small issues turn into major challenges. I see this time and time again when working with MSP owners. You invest in great people, you build what feels like a strong team, and then something shifts. Progress slows, frustrations grow, and you start to wonder what has changed. This episode is designed to help you recognise those moments and take practical action.     I am joined by...

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EP276 - Why Most MSPs Are Sitting on Easy Money -Breakfix Edition with Ian Luckett show art EP276 - Why Most MSPs Are Sitting on Easy Money -Breakfix Edition with Ian Luckett

IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett

In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we explore why many MSP owners are sitting on easy money without realising the scale of the opportunity already inside their existing client base. This practical break fix edition is designed to give you clarity, structure, and a clear set of actions you can take straight away to improve profitability, strengthen relationships, and build more predictable growth.     A common challenge for MSPs is the hesitation around commercial conversations. You may have built strong technical trust with your clients over many years,...

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In this episode of the IT Experts Podcast, we explore why so many MSPs hit a ceiling when it comes to growth and how shifting your marketing mindset from activity to strategy can unlock the next level of success. 

I’m joined by THE Nicola Moss, a seasoned marketing leader and founder of The Fractional Marketeer, who works with MSPs to bring structure, credibility and clear direction to their marketing efforts. Nicola has spent years leading marketing functions inside MSPs, so she knows first-hand the challenges that owners face when they try to move from tactical marketing, emails, webinars, and social posts to a true strategic approach that builds long-term business value. 

At The MSP Growth Hub, we see this all the time. Many owners tell us they are doing “some marketing” but feel it’s not getting traction. They’re sending emails, posting online, maybe running the odd event, but it all feels disconnected. Nicola explained that this is where most MSPs sit for far too long, often because marketing isn’t their happy place. It feels complicated, time-consuming, and expensive. But as Nicola reminded us, what got you here won’t get you there. The habits that got an MSP to a few million in revenue are rarely the ones that will take it beyond that point. To grow, you need to think differently. 

Nicola talked about the moment when MSPs start to realise they need a more cohesive approach. That’s when things start to feel messy. There’s often a marketing assistant, a digital agency, maybe a salesperson, but no one is joining the dots. It becomes fragmented, and without a guiding hand, you end up with activity without impact. This is where having a clear marketing strategy connected directly to your business goals becomes essential. 

At The MSP Growth Hub, we help MSPs connect the dots between their commercial plan and their marketing focus. Nicola shared that one of the biggest mindset shifts for MSPs is to start viewing marketing not just as lead generation, but as a way of building transferable value. She made the point that every MSP will eventually exit their business, whether through sale or succession, and that marketing has a direct influence on valuation. A well-defined brand, a consistent message, and clear differentiation all make the business more attractive to both clients and buyers. 

We also explored the question of what an effective marketing team should look like. Nicola explained that in smaller MSPs, marketing often starts with an outsourced agency or a junior hire handling basic digital tasks. But as the business grows, it becomes important to have someone internal who understands the company, its values and its customers. Eventually, that person needs strategic guidance to connect all the moving parts: sales, operations, and growth priorities. This is where bringing in a fractional CMO or senior marketing lead can make a huge difference. 

At The MSP Growth Hub, we often encourage MSPs to grow their own internal marketing resource but to support them with strategic oversight. Nicola’s experience as a fractional CMO mirrors this. She shared how her clients benefit from having someone who isn’t just managing an agency but is actually embedded in the business, aligning marketing to outcomes such as revenue growth, client retention, and brand credibility. 

A major part of the discussion was about measurement. Marketing can feel hard to measure, especially when some activities build awareness and trust over time. Nicola acknowledged that not everything can be tracked to a spreadsheet, but revenue growth, margin contribution, and progress against the business plan are strong indicators that marketing is doing its job. She also pointed out that marketing and sales should share the same growth targets. Success comes when both teams work together, not in silos. 

Another powerful insight came when we talked about the middle of the funnel: the stage between awareness and conversion. Many MSPs are active at the top of the funnel, creating blogs or posting on LinkedIn, and they get referrals at the bottom, but there’s a big gap in the middle. Nicola explained that this is where educational webinars, customer advocacy, and community engagement play a huge role. Case studies, client stories and thought leadership all help to build trust and credibility before a sales conversation even begins.  

As we wrapped up, Nicola left us with an important reminder. Marketing isn’t a nice-to-have. It requires investment, consistency and strategic thinking. The MSPs that succeed are those that move beyond scattergun activity and focus their marketing around clear objectives that support the overall business plan. When marketing, sales and leadership are aligned, growth becomes predictable and sustainable. 

At The MSP Growth Hub, we see this shift in action every day. The MSPs that take a more strategic view of their marketing see stronger lead flow, better client retention and ultimately higher valuations when it’s time to sell or seek investment. Nicola’s insights show that this level of clarity doesn’t come from doing moreit comes from thinking smarter, aligning your message with your market, and building a marketing function that truly drives the business forward. 

If you’re ready to step back and look at your marketing through a more strategic lens, this episode with Nicola Moss is one you won’t want to miss. It’s a reminder that sustainable growth starts with focus, alignment, and a plan that connects marketing directly to your MSP’s long-term goals.

You can connect with Nicola Moss on her LinkedIn HERE. 

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Until next time, look after yourself and I’ll catch up with you soon!