281 Shu Kimura — Founder, Boulangerie Maison Kayser Japan
Japan's Top Business Interviews Podcast By Dale Carnegie Training Tokyo Japan
Release Date: 01/16/2026
Japan's Top Business Interviews Podcast By Dale Carnegie Training Tokyo Japan
“Don’t be the loud foreigner who just says we do this and this and this.” “It’s okay to make mistakes if you identify them, if you learn from them in the future.” “If you have an open mind, just listen first.” “You cannot spend enough time on just talking and communicating with people.” “For me, right now a leader is somebody who helps employees to achieve the potential, their mission.” Beat Kraehenmann is a Swiss-born electrical engineer who moved to Japan to change the trajectory of his life and immerse himself in Asia. After studying at a technical university and...
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“If we can sell it in Japan, we can sell it also in other countries.” “The first thing I believe is honesty, especially in difficult situations.” “The word “musukashi” is not allowed anymore in our company.” “When an engineer is working at the customer and he cannot solve the problem… even if time is up, he would not walk away.” “You need to give them… a safety rope.” Joerg Bauer is the Representative Director of Heidelberg Japan, leading a business that provides industrial printing and packaging solutions across software, machinery, and consumables. Trained in...
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“The purpose of my business is not only bake and sell, because we are introducing… culture or food habits of France to the Japanese people.” “Japanese people don't buy baguettes because they don't know how to eat it.” “After twenty shops, I needed to change my mentality to be the new type leaders.” “I have responsibility for the life of the workers.” Shu Kimura is the founder of Boulangerie Maison Kayser Japan and a fellow Rotarian. Born into the Kimura family, whose ancestors helped introduce bread-making techniques to Japan via Nagasaki (Dejima) in the 1600s, he chose to...
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“I think curiosity is very important. When you’re curious about something, you listen.” “You have to be at the forefront, not the back. You can’t, hide behind and say, ‘hey, you know, guys solve it’, right?” “When they trust you, beautiful things happen.” “Ideas are welcome. You know, ideas are free. But it’s got be data driven.” Tomo Kamiya is President Japan at PTC, a company known for parametric design and CAD-driven simulation that helps engineers model, test, and refine...
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“If you trust people, your life is very nice.” “The bringing people together with one common objective needs to be carefully thought out and defining the processes very carefully needs to be thought out and don’t imagine that the process will be figured out by the people themselves.” “They are looking for a leader who is responsible, who can make the decision.” “Be transparent.” Brief Bio Armel Cahierre is a French-trained engineer who built a multi-country career across R&D, turnaround management, consulting, private equity-adjacent deal work, and consumer retail....
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“Leadership is staying ahead of change without losing authenticity”. “Trust is the real currency of sales, teams, and Japan’s business culture”. “Zeiss’s foundation model is a rare advantage: patient capital reinvested into R&D”. “Japan is less “risk-averse” than “uncertainty-avoidant” when decisions lack clarity and consensus”. “Language is helpful for connection, but not the primary qualification for leading in Japan”. Brief Bio Vincent Mathieu is the CEO of Carl Zeiss Japan, leading a multi-division portfolio spanning semiconductors, medical devices,...
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“Come as you are works in Japan when leaders are also willing to read the air and meet people where they are”. “Japan isn’t as risk-averse as people think; it is uncertainty avoidance and consensus norms like nemawashi and ringi-sho that slow decisions”. “In Japan, numbers are universal, but how people feel about those numbers is where real leadership begins”. “For foreign leaders, kindness, patience, and genuine curiosity are far more powerful than charisma or title”. “Women leaders who embrace their own style, instead of copying male role models, can quietly...
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Deliver the win, then ring the bell. Make small mistakes fast; make big learnings faster. Think global, act local — but don’t go native. Do the nemawashi before the meeting, not during it. Your salary is earned in the stores: go to the gemba. A 28-year Domino’s veteran, Martin Steenks began at 16 as a delivery expert in the Netherlands. He rose to store manager, multi-unit supervisor, then franchisee, building his operation to eight stores by 2019. After selling his stores, he became Head of Operations for Domino’s Netherlands, then CEO of Domino’s Taiwan in 2021, and subsequently...
info_outline“The purpose of my business is not only bake and sell, because we are introducing… culture or food habits of France to the Japanese people.”
“Japanese people don't buy baguettes because they don't know how to eat it.”
“After twenty shops, I needed to change my mentality to be the new type leaders.”
“I have responsibility for the life of the workers.”
Shu Kimura is the founder of Boulangerie Maison Kayser Japan and a fellow Rotarian. Born into the Kimura family, whose ancestors helped introduce bread-making techniques to Japan via Nagasaki (Dejima) in the 1600s, he chose to build a separate path rather than continue the established family business. He studied law at university, then worked in insurance for six years in market development before deciding to become a baker. He trained in the United States in Kansas, studying wheat science and fermentation chemistry, then worked as a baker at Amy’s Bread in New York City. He later went to France to train closely with artisanal baker Eric Kayser living near his home as a private trainee before being invited to become a business partner to bring the brand concept to Japan. Kimura built the company in 2000 and opened the first Japan store in Takanawa in 2001. Over time, he grew the business to dozens of locations across Japan, leading hundreds of employees while navigating Japan’s distinctive customer habits, service expectations, and people-management realities.
Shu Kimura’s leadership story is a case study in translating a food culture—not merely selling a product—into a market with different habits, assumptions, and decision styles. He entered baking after a first career in insurance, then rebuilt himself through technical study of fermentation and wheat science in Kansas, practical craft in New York, and high-intensity apprenticeship in France. That blend of science, craft, and commercial pragmatism shaped how he approached Japan: with conviction about quality, but equal focus on “how to sell” in a society where bread is often treated as a one-hand snack rather than part of a shared table.
His early strategic insight was not that Japanese consumers disliked baguettes, but that many simply lacked a usage framework. That is a leadership lesson in market education: changing behaviour requires storytelling, context, and repeated micro-demonstrations. Sampling hundreds of baguette slices daily, Kimura used seasonal moments—Christmas and New Year’s gatherings—to help customers discover bread as a centrepiece of hospitality. The result was not incremental improvement but a demand inflection point: the product did not change; the meaning did.
As the company expanded, Kimura’s definition of leadership evolved in stages: hands-on labour at one to three shops, charisma and founder-driven momentum from four to twenty, and then a deliberate shift from “activist and baker” to architect of systems, accountability, and culture. This transition mirrors a broader Japan leadership truth: scale forces leaders to move from doing to enabling, from individual mastery to organisational capability.
Kimura also highlights a practical contrast between European-style top-down authority and Japan’s preference for shared understanding and bottom-up execution. Rather than merely issuing task-level directives, he argues that people in Japan need the whole picture first—the total view—before work can be broken into puzzle pieces. This aligns with consensus dynamics such as nemawashi (pre-alignment) and ringi-sho (circulating approval), where clarity of purpose and social alignment can matter as much as speed. In an uncertainty-avoidant environment, trust is built through repeated communication: purpose, targets, role clarity, and recognition systems that show personal growth.
Technology appears in his leadership thinking not as novelty, but as operational resilience—sales planning, ordering, loss control, and cross-application data transfer. The strategic point is decision intelligence: reducing waste and stabilising performance through better signals, with the potential to build digital-twin-like visibility into demand, production, and staffing over time. Yet Kimura remains grounded: culture, education, and human motivation are the levers that keep quality consistent across many locations.
Q&A Summary
What makes leadership in Japan unique?
Kimura frames Japan as a context where leadership effectiveness depends on shared understanding, not merely authority. He contrasts European “boss is boss” top-down control with a Japanese style that works better when leaders explain the total view of the company first, then break it down into actionable pieces. In practice, that means investing heavily in communication of purpose, targets, and role boundaries—an approach consistent with consensus-building patterns such as nemawashi and ringi-sho.
Why do global executives struggle?
He implies the struggle often comes from applying familiar command-and-control habits in a market that expects alignment, context, and relationship-based coherence. Leaders who only provide “do this, do that” instructions may fail to create commitment. Without the larger narrative—why the work matters—people drift, and brand consistency erodes across locations.
Is Japan truly risk-averse?
Kimura’s experience suggests “risk-averse” is often a shorthand for “uncertainty-avoidant.” The baguette challenge was not fear of trying something new; it was uncertainty about how to use it. When he taught customers how to eat baguette and anchored it to family occasions, behaviour changed rapidly. The leadership implication: reduce uncertainty with education, examples, and social proof.
What leadership style actually works?
He describes a staged evolution: doer-leader at small scale, charismatic founder at mid-scale, then system-builder after twenty shops. The effective style becomes one of delegation with accountability—pushing responsibility down to store and area leaders while reinforcing philosophy and standards through education. Trust is sustained through fair, frequently improved HR systems that recognise growth and provide future pathways.
How can technology help?
Kimura points to connected planning for orders and sales, and systems to manage loss control and operational accuracy. He also discusses using systems to support smaller independent bakeries with HR and payroll calculations. This is technology as operational leverage—moving toward decision intelligence and potentially digital twin capabilities—while acknowledging cost constraints and the reality that some AI applications may still be premature.
Does language proficiency matter?
He treats language as a tool rather than the essence: interpretation can solve comprehension, but the substance of what a leader communicates is decisive. In other words, clarity of message, philosophy, and intent carries more weight than linguistic perfection.
What’s the ultimate leadership lesson?
For Kimura, leadership is responsibility for people’s livelihoods: failure affects hundreds of jobs, not just the founder’s personal assets. That sense of stewardship drives his focus on communication, education, continuous system improvement, and the creation of a “happy life with bread” shared by bakers, shop staff, and customers alike.
Author Credentials
Dr. Greg Story, Ph.D. in Japanese Decision-Making, is President of Dale Carnegie Tokyo Training and Adjunct Professor at Griffith University. He is a two-time winner of the Dale Carnegie “One Carnegie Award” (2018, 2021) and recipient of the Griffith University Business School Outstanding Alumnus Award (2012). As a Dale Carnegie Master Trainer, Greg is certified to deliver globally across all leadership, communication, sales, and presentation programs, including Leadership Training for Results.
He has written several books, including three best-sellers — Japan Business Mastery, Japan Sales Mastery, and Japan Presentations Mastery — along with Japan Leadership Mastery and How to Stop Wasting Money on Training. His works have also been translated into Japanese, including Za Eigyō (ザ営業), Purezen no Tatsujin (プレゼンの達人), Torēningu de Okane o Muda ni Suru no wa Yamemashō (トレーニングでお金を無駄にするのはやめましょう), and Gendaiban “Hito o Ugokasu” Rīdā (現代版「人を動かす」リーダー).
In addition to his books, Greg publishes daily blogs on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter, offering practical insights on leadership, communication, and Japanese business culture.
He is also the host of six weekly podcasts, including The Leadership Japan Series, The Sales Japan Series, The Presentations Japan Series, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan’s Top Business Interviews. On YouTube, he produces three weekly shows — The Cutting Edge Japan Business Show, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan’s Top Business Interviews — which have become leading resources for executives seeking strategies for success in Japan.