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#352: Can I Forgive and Make It Stick? With Debbie Barr

Release Date: 05/29/2025

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

This is a very merry episode of the 4:13 Podcast today because … it’s Christmas, and we want to sprinkle a little extra joy into your celebration! We’re talking about the wonder and joy of Christmas—but also the mess of Christmas, because let’s be real, it can get a little messy, right? So, we’ll laugh together, share a few stories, and remind your heart that Jesus shows up right in the middle of the mess to bring you hope and peace! And to top it off, we’re ending this episode with a very special song called “HOPE (Behold Emmanuel)” for you to carry with you throughout...

#381: Can I Stop Feeling Lonely? With Alli Patterson

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

We are deeply relational people, longing to be connected and known. That’s how we were created! Yet despite having endless ways to connect these days, loneliness is on the rise. So today on the 4:13, author Alli Patterson addresses the loneliness epidemic and breaks down how you can build relationships that actually nourish your soul! But here’s the best part… Alli went straight to God’s Word to learn what the Gospels reveal about Jesus and His relationships. And what she discovered is fascinating! She’ll walk you through the five essential relationship types Jesus built during...

#380: Can I Tame My Thoughts To Transform My Life? With Max Lucado

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

Are you feeling overwhelmed by out-of-control thoughts, consuming worry, or the nagging weight of guilt? Well, I’ve got good news: Your thoughts don’t have to control your life! Instead, you can tame those thoughts, and here to help you do it is “America’s Pastor,” Max Lucado. Through Scripture and biblical wisdom, Max will teach you how to renew your mind and change your thinking—one thought at a time. He tackles common thought struggles like anxiety and guilt, and he offers practical tools to help you rewire those unruly thought patterns, including a tool for identifying UFOs!...

#379: Can I Get Back Up When I Want To Give Up? With Shawn Johnson

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

When life gets hard—really hard—it can be tempting to throw in the towel. But today you’re going to hear an incredibly powerful testimony of why you shouldn’t. Pastor Shawn Johnson talks about how he received a devastating brain disease diagnosis that left him wrestling with despair, doubt, and the desire to give up on everything, including his faith and his future. But through vulnerability, community, and choosing to worship even in the middle of his pain, Shawn discovered that joy can coexist with suffering. He'll give you three reasons to keep fighting as well as seven...

#378: Your Thanksgiving Soundtrack

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

Thanksgiving may come once a year, but thankfulness is for every day. So in this special edition of the 4:13, we’re looking at what Scripture says about cultivating an attitude of gratitude—not just today, but always! We hope you’ll meditate on these verses and let them shape your perspective—no matter what season you’re in—because there’s an abundance of joy that comes from a heart full of gratitude! So, while you’re in the kitchen preparing a meal or driving to see friends and family, listen in and let us be your Thanksgiving soundtrack. SHOW NOTES: Read the episode...

#377: Can I Show Empathy to Myself and Others? With Bill & Kristi Gaultiere

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

Empathy is often misunderstood, even maligned. But the truth is—it’s one of the most powerful ways to experience healthier emotions and stronger relationships. True empathy isn’t about coddling or rescuing; it’s about understanding and care that respects God’s truth and empowers personal responsibility. Today on the 4:13, Bill and Kristi Gaultiere share biblical and psychological insights into what empathy really is. You’ll discover what Scripture says about empathy, how Jesus models it, and why showing empathy to yourself isn’t selfish, but essential. You’ll also get practical...

#376: Can I Care for Others Without Burning Out? With Shaunti Feldhahn

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

People are hurting on a scale we’ve never seen before. They’re dealing with an onslaught of issues like anxiety, grief, mental health struggles, and family troubles. Pastors and counselors want to help, but they’ve become inundated and can’t meet every need. It’s a crisis that's expected to only become worse. But what if the church stepped in? What if the body of Christ could bring healing to the hurting and take a load off of the already too-busy pastor and counselor? Well, today on the 4:13, author and social researcher Shaunti Feldhahn shares a brilliant way for everyday people of...

#375: Can I Be More Gentle With Myself? With Micah E. Davis

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

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#374: Can I Really Make a Difference? With Governor John Kasich

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

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#373: Can I Make Wise Decisions? With Katie M. Reid

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

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Forgiveness is one of the hardest choices we face—but it’s also one of the most powerful. Today’s guest, author Debbie Barr, reveals how forgiving others isn’t just an act of obedience to God—it’s a gift to ourselves.

Many people don’t realize this, but we pay a high price to our overall health when we cling to resentment, bitterness, and thoughts of revenge. So, through a blend of science, psychology, and Scripture, Debbie unpacks the life-changing benefits of forgiveness.

Plus, she'll give you practical steps to start moving forward, helping you understand why “forgive and forget” is a myth, what to do when painful memories resurface, and why waiting for the “right emotions” before forgiving is a mistake.

So, if you’re struggling to forgive, wondering if you’ve truly forgiven, or simply need encouragement on your journey, listen in! You're about to get a taste of the freedom that comes with forgiveness.

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