#359: What Whitney Capps and Point of Grace Have To Say About It
4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild
Release Date: 07/17/2025
4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild
Thanksgiving may come once a year, but thankfulness is for every day. So in this special edition of the 4:13, weâre looking at what Scripture says about cultivating an attitude of gratitudeânot just today, but always! We hope youâll meditate on these verses and let them shape your perspectiveâno matter what season youâre inâbecause thereâs an abundance of joy that comes from a heart full of gratitude! So, while youâre in the kitchen preparing a meal or driving to see friends and family, listen in and let us be your Thanksgiving soundtrack. SHOW NOTES: Read the episode...
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Empathy is often misunderstood, even maligned. But the truth isâitâs one of the most powerful ways to experience healthier emotions and stronger relationships. True empathy isnât about coddling or rescuing; itâs about understanding and care that respects Godâs truth and empowers personal responsibility. Today on the 4:13, Bill and Kristi Gaultiere share biblical and psychological insights into what empathy really is. Youâll discover what Scripture says about empathy, how Jesus models it, and why showing empathy to yourself isnât selfish, but essential. Youâll also get practical...
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People are hurting on a scale weâve never seen before. Theyâre dealing with an onslaught of issues like anxiety, grief, mental health struggles, and family troubles. Pastors and counselors want to help, but theyâve become inundated and canât meet every need. Itâs a crisis that's expected to only become worse. But what if the church stepped in? What if the body of Christ could bring healing to the hurting and take a load off of the already too-busy pastor and counselor? Well, today on the 4:13, author and social researcher Shaunti Feldhahn shares a brilliant way for everyday people of...
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When youâve been hurt or let down, or when youâve failed over and over, itâs easy to be way too hard on yourself and others. Maybe youâve struggled to forgive yourself if youâve blown it, or you canât forgive others if they have. But my friend, thereâs hope! The gospel is anchored in grace, which means you can forgive others AND be gentle with yourself. Today on the 4:13, author and pastor Micah E. Davis will reframe your understanding of forgiveness, distinguishing the practice of forgiveness from the difficult process it requires. Heâll unpack why forgiveness isnât...
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Do you ever feel like the problems in our world are just too big for you to make a difference? Well, today on the 4:13, former Ohio governor and presidential candidate John Kasich will tell you why thatâs simply not true! Drawing from his own faith journey and years of public service, John shares how faith communities have incredible potential to bring hope and healingâeven in a divided culture. Through real-life stories and practical encouragement, youâll discover ways to move past cynicism, engage with your church or community, and take simple steps that truly matter. Because you...
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Do you ever feel paralyzed when making decisionsâespecially when itâs one thatâs really important? You just want to be sure youâre making the right choice. But how do you know? And what if you're wrong? Oh friend, I get it! Decision-making can be overwhelming, especially when paired with lots of uncertainty. But today, youâre going to learn that you can make faithful, God-honoring decisions, regardless of how high the stakes. Author Katie M. Reid joins us to explore the book of Judgesâspecifically the time of Deborah and the early judgesâto give you confidence in making wise...
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Have you ever wrestled with doubt and wondered if it meant your faith was slipping away? Youâre not alone! When we find ourselves torn between faith and uncertainty, itâs easy to feel disappointed, disillusioned, and distant from God. But what if doubt isnât a threat to your faith? What if itâs an invitation to a deeper relationship with God? Today on the 4:13, Niki Hardy will help you shift your perspective on doubt. Sheâll invite you to trade your need for certainty for the security of relationship, and sheâll give you a simple, four-step conversation guide to help you...
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Does it ever seem like your thoughts have a mind of their own? Persistent negative thinking, anxiety spirals, or lingering offenses can quickly take over if you donât know how to stop them. But hereâs the good newsâyou can take control of your thoughts, and God has already given you the tools to do it. Pastor Kyle Idleman joins me on the 4:13 and shares how brain science and Scripture agree that we must pause and think about what weâre thinking about. But we canât stop there! We have to clean out that thought closet! So today, Kyle will teach you how to take every thought captive,...
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Have you ever noticed that even when your body is still, your mind is still racing? Worry, distractions, and endless to-do lists often crowd out the quiet we long forâand can make prayer feel impossible. But what if there was a way to experience both peace in your mind and presence in prayer? In this episode, author Jennifer Tucker invites us into the practice of meditationâChristian meditation where you focus on Godâs Word, become attentive to His presence, and renew your mind by filling your thoughts with His truth. Not only does Jennifer share the physical, mental, and...
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In a world thatâs hyper-focused on hustle and productivity, many of us have been taught that our worth is tied to what we do. But what if being is more valuable than doing? Today on the 4:13, Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smithâphysician, spiritual mentor, and coachâshares how to embrace a life rooted not in performance but in stillness, rest, and your God-given identity. With warmth and wisdom, she offers both scientific insight and biblical truth to help you separate the worth of what you do from the infinite worth of who you are. Youâll discover the connection between mental clarity and...
info_outlineI cannot wait for you to hear this today! Whitney Capps and the incredible ladies of Point of Grace joined me at a Fresh Grounded Faith event in Springfield, Missouri, and let me tell you, there was something extra special about this day.
Maybe it was because Whitney brought such raw honesty while in the middle of cancer treatments. Or maybe it was the sweet friendship and humility that Point of Grace radiated from the stage. Or maybe it was because someone in the audience tried to set KC up with her cousin, Brenda. đ
Either way, we had a blast answering questions from the audience where Point of Grace shared how they got together, what happened when a âcease and desistâ forced them to change their name đ, and if they ever have any girl drama!
Plus, we opened up about whether itâs okay to tell God that youâre mad, practical ways to become self-disciplined, and how to walk with a friend through cancer.
Itâs deep, itâs funny, itâs realâand itâs just what you need today. So get ready! Weâre spilling the beans!
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