S5 EP04: Beyond Tokenism: Creating Authentic Indigenous Partnerships in Early Childhood
Educator Yarns with Jessica Staines & Bec Burch
Release Date: 04/27/2025
Educator Yarns with Jessica Staines & Bec Burch
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Lisa Mavin, the nominated supervisor of Tilly's Play Development Centre in Rutherford, who shares her remarkable 18-year journey in early childhood education and her transformative approach to embedding Aboriginal perspectives in mainstream services. As a non-Aboriginal educator married into an Aboriginal family, Lisa offers a unique perspective on creating culturally safe environments and building genuine relationships with First Nations communities. In this episode, Lisa reveals how she completely restructured her centre's approach to Aboriginal...
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In this honest and practical episode of Educator Yarns, Jessica Staines and Bec Burch tackle the concerns many early childhood educators face when taking children out of the gate and onto Country. Rather than sugar-coating the challenges, they share real experiences from the field - from unexpected encounters with dogs and community members to navigating snake safety and supporting children with additional needs. Drawing from years of experience in bush kindy programs across Australia, they demonstrate how careful planning, community partnerships, and cultural awareness can transform perceived...
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In this deeply insightful episode of Educator Yarns, we journey with Kat Fulford, a passionate early childhood educator from Ararat, Victoria, who shares her transformative approach to embedding Aboriginal perspectives in kindergarten education. From her unique background transitioning from agricultural industry to early childhood education, Kat brings a profound connection to Country that permeates every aspect of her teaching practice. She candidly discusses the challenges of finding Aboriginal education resources in regional Victoria, the powerful moments that shaped her commitment to this...
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Educator Yarns Season 5 Episode 10: From Intention to Connection: A Guide to Engaging with Local Aboriginal Communities In this episode of Educator Yarns, hosts Jessica Staines and Bec Burch tackle one of the most frequently asked questions in early childhood education: how to appropriately and respectfully connect with local Aboriginal communities. Prompted by a heartfelt voicemail from Kate at Little Saints at Tallebudgera, who runs a Bush Kindy program seeking guidance on community engagement, the hosts dive deep into the nuanced process of building authentic relationships with Aboriginal...
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In this episode of Educator Yarns, we chat with Taylar Malouf, an inspiring early childhood educator from Hopscotch Kindergarten. Over the past two years, Taylar has embarked on a transformative journey to embed First Nations perspectives into her teaching practices, creating meaningful learning experiences for children under her care. From her initial "Caring for Country" project that began with children's concern about rubbish in their local park, to developing a Bush Tucker Garden and exploring Indigenous seasons, Taylar shares how these initiatives have become central to her pedagogy. Her...
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In this episode of Educator Yarns, we speak with Stephanie Watson, an inspiring early childhood educator and nominee for the Koori Curriculum Early Childhood Educator of the Year awards. Based at Happy Hearts Academy Early Learning Centre in Helensburgh, Stephanie has transformed her service's approach to embedding Aboriginal perspectives through developing a meaningful Reconciliation Action Plan from scratch. With over ten years of experience in early childhood education, Stephanie shares her journey from wanting to work with the Starlight Foundation to becoming an educational leader...
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In this episode of Educator Yarns, host Jessica Staines, Director of Koori Curriculum, is joined by Bec Burch, founder of Bush Kindy’s Australia, to explore the transformative power of "On Country" program for early childhood education. This thoughtful dialogue delves into how venturing beyond the confines of traditional learning environments enriches children's development through meaningful connection to place. The conversation weaves together Aboriginal perspectives, particularly the concept of "land links" where learning connects back to country, with the principles of nature pedagogy....
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In this episode of Educator Yarns, Jess Staines speaks with Linda Wilson, a dedicated early childhood teacher at Sentia Early Learning in Melbourne CBD. Originally from Sweden, Linda shares how her childhood experiences exploring Swedish forests shaped her deep appreciation for nature as a teacher and guide. Now living and working on Wurundjeri Country, Linda beautifully intertwines her background in Nordic Forest pedagogy with Aboriginal perspectives in her teaching practice. Despite being based in Melbourne's urban centre, Linda has led her kindergarten children on more than 30 excursions to...
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In this illuminating episode of Educator Yarns, we welcome back Bec from Bush Kindy’s Australia for an in-depth conversation about Bush Tucker Gardens in early learning environments. Together, Jessica & Bec explore the profound educational value these spaces offer and address a common challenge observed across many services: the tendency for Bush Tucker plants to be underutilised, neglected, or misunderstood. Bec shares her wealth of knowledge about why these gardens matter, how they connect children to Country, and practical approaches to establishing and maintaining meaningful native...
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In this illuminating episode of Educator Yarns, we welcome back Bec from Bush Kindy’s Australia for an in-depth conversation about Bush Tucker Gardens in early learning environments. Together, Jessica & Bec explore the profound educational value these spaces offer and address a common challenge observed across many services: the tendency for Bush Tucker plants to be underutilised, neglected, or misunderstood. Bec shares her wealth of knowledge about why these gardens matter, how they connect children to Country, and practical approaches to establishing and maintaining meaningful native...
info_outlineIn this powerful episode of Educator Yarns, we sit down with Kimmi, an award-winning early childhood teacher, mentor, and National Indigenous Perspectives partner at Greenleaves. As a proud Māori woman, Kimmi shares her deeply personal journey of using her own cultural roots to build meaningful connections with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples across Australia.
Working with over 65 Greenleaves services nationwide, she supports educators and leadership teams to develop authentic knowledge of how to incorporate Indigenous cultures and histories while avoiding tokenistic approaches.
Kimmi's candid discussion about navigating her role within a colonial context, her approach to self-care whilst carrying cultural responsibilities, and her practical strategies for centres to develop genuine partnerships with local communities offers invaluable insights for educators at any stage of their reconciliation journey.
Key Takeaways:
- Understanding the importance of meaningful connections rather than transactional relationships when working with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities
- Recognising the emotional labour and potential burnout for Indigenous educators carrying cultural responsibilities in early childhood settings
- Acknowledging Australia as a colonial country and how this framework helps us understand current relationships and power dynamics
- The value of amplifying authentic Indigenous voices rather than speaking for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples
- Practical approaches to establishing what partnership looks like in early childhood services through environmental audits
- Developing self-awareness about tokenistic gestures versus meaningful representation in educational settings
- The significance of knowing the Country you're on and learning to say "hello" in the local Indigenous language
- Balancing professional growth with personal wellbeing through career transitions and stepping back when needed
- Using resources from Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander authors to deepen understanding and create meaningful narratives
- Creating Indigenous Perspectives Partners within each service to champion and sustain culturally responsive practices
Kimmi's approach demonstrates that embedding Aboriginal perspectives requires ongoing commitment, deep listening, and genuine partnership. Her work with Greenleaves exemplifies how organisations can support educators to move beyond surface-level inclusion to meaningful engagement with Indigenous cultures.
For anyone working in early childhood education, this conversation provides practical wisdom and heartfelt inspiration to deepen your own reconciliation journey.
Listen now to discover how you can transform your practice and create spaces where Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander perspectives are authentically honoured and celebrated.
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