318: AI is a consensus machine (and here's why that's good for some lawyers)
Release Date: 11/26/2025
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In this episode, Ernie discusses the impact of AI on the legal profession, emphasizing that while AI may replace surface-level tasks, the best lawyers will thrive by focusing on deeper, strategic thinking and understanding complex legal outcomes.
Takeaways
- The best lawyers won't just survive this wave of AI. They're gonna dominate.
- If your work is mostly surface level, AI is gonna replace you.
- To remain indispensable, focus on outcomes and hidden risks.
- Understanding the chessboard of legal scenarios is crucial.
- Lawyers must evolve their skills to adapt to AI advancements.
- AI should be seen as a tool, not a replacement.
- Strategic thinking is key in the legal profession.
- The future of law requires innovation and adaptation.
- Surface-level tasks can be automated, but deeper insights cannot.
- Indispensable lawyers will thrive in the AI era.
Resource Links
- ChatGPT Lab (a weekly AI workshop for lawyers)
- Apply to join the ChatGPT Lab
- The 80/20 Principle (my techlaw newsletter)
- The Inner Circle (my online community for lawyers)
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