266 The Long Game of Musical Growth - Ben Ullery on Curiosity, Learning, and Performing at the Highest Level
Release Date: 07/17/2026
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info_outlineBen Ullery, Principal Viola of the Los Angeles Philharmonic, joins me for a thoughtful conversation about curiosity, lifelong learning, and what it takes to keep growing as a musician while performing at the highest level.
In this episode, we explore:
- Why curiosity is one of a musician's greatest assets
- What happens after you land your dream job
- The role of visualization in performance
- Why perfection isn't the goal
- How to keep growing throughout your musical career
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THANK YOU:
Most sincere thank you to composer Jim Stephenson who graciously provided the show’s musical theme: Concerto #1 for Trumpet and Chamber Orchestra – Movement 2: Allegro con Brio, performed by Jeffrey Work, trumpet, and the Lake Forest Symphony, conducted by Jim Stephenson.