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The Navy SEAL Approach to Uncertainty with Author Rich Diviney show art The Navy SEAL Approach to Uncertainty with Author Rich Diviney

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Navigating Power, Visibility, and Influence at Work with Executive Coach Melody Wilding show art Navigating Power, Visibility, and Influence at Work with Executive Coach Melody Wilding

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In this episode, I sit down with Melody Wilding to talk about a skill that has become increasingly important in today's matrixed organizations: managing up. But not in the traditional sense of simply keeping your boss informed. We explore what it really means to build influence with decision-makers, stakeholders, and leaders whose priorities, communication styles, and levels of involvement may be very different from your day-to-day contacts. Whether you're navigating internal relationships or working with complex clients, Melody shares practical frameworks for creating alignment, building...

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Business Development, Failure, and the Art of Trying Again with Author Steve Kamb show art Business Development, Failure, and the Art of Trying Again with Author Steve Kamb

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In this conversation, I sit down with Steve Kamb to explore what it really means to keep moving forward when things don’t go according to plan. We talk about why success in business development, leadership, fitness, and creative work often has less to do with having the perfect strategy and more to do with developing the ability to adjust, learn, and make another attempt. Steve shares lessons from stand-up comedy, golf, entrepreneurship, and his own experiences building businesses and writing his latest book, How to Try Again, offering a practical framework for navigating setbacks without...

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The Truth About Money, Happiness, and Wealth Creation with Kit Founder Nathan Barry show art The Truth About Money, Happiness, and Wealth Creation with Kit Founder Nathan Barry

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In this episode, I sit down with entrepreneur and Kit founder Nathan Barry to unpack the real relationship between money, impact, leverage, and fulfillment. We talk openly about wealth in a way most people never do, especially in professional services and high performing careers where conversations about money can still feel taboo. Nathan shares why he believes money is simply a tool, how value creation leads to wealth, and why building an audience may be one of the greatest leverage opportunities available today. We also dive deep into Nathan’s upcoming book Ladders of Wealth and the...

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How Great Leaders Build Teams People Never Want to Leave with Author Ron Friedman show art How Great Leaders Build Teams People Never Want to Leave with Author Ron Friedman

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What if the secret to building a high performing team has almost nothing to do with working harder? In this episode, I sit down with Ron Friedman to unpack the science behind what actually makes teams thrive, innovate, and outperform everyone else. We dive into the surprising myths most leaders still believe about teamwork, productivity, meetings, accountability, and motivation, and why the best teams often operate completely differently than conventional wisdom suggests. From shared goals and peer accountability to creating a culture where people genuinely want to do their best work, this...

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Everything changes the moment you stop doing the work and start managing it. In this episode, I sit down with Ashley Herd to unpack what really happens when high performers step into leadership and why so many struggle in that transition. We dig into the hidden challenges of managing both people and client relationships, and why being great at your job does not automatically make you a great manager. I share real examples of where things go wrong, including how silence and overthinking can quietly erode trust, and we explore the simple but powerful “pause, consider, act” framework that can...

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Are you moving too fast to give advice when the real opportunity is to lead through curiosity? In this episode, I sit down with bestselling author and coaching expert Michael Bungay Stanier to unpack what it really means to become a more effective leader, coach, and communicator. We dive into the powerful idea that the best leaders are not the ones with the fastest answers, but the ones who stay curious a little longer. Michael shares why letting your team struggle is often the key to their growth, how leaders accidentally become bottlenecks, and why the instinct to jump in with advice can...

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Why Bold Leadership Is the Key to Greater Impact with Author Leigh Burgess show art Why Bold Leadership Is the Key to Greater Impact with Author Leigh Burgess

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What does it really mean to lead boldly when the stakes are high and the path ahead isn’t perfectly clear? In this episode, I sit down with leadership expert and author Leigh Burgess to unpack what bold leadership actually looks like in practice. We explore why so many high-performing professionals second guess themselves when making big decisions, having difficult conversations, or stepping into higher levels of leadership. Leigh shares the five core traits she believes define bold leaders and explains how strategic risk taking, trust building, and resilience play a critical role in leading...

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Ever wonder why some leaders, brands, and businesses seem to communicate so clearly that people instantly trust them, buy from them, and follow their vision? In this episode, I sit down with communication strategist and author Oliver Aust to unpack why communication is often the hidden bottleneck holding teams, businesses, and leaders back. We dive into why communication is the ultimate leverage skill in modern knowledge work, and how mastering it can transform everything from sales conversations and client loyalty to leadership influence and brand positioning. Together, we explore the...

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In this conversation, I sit down with Steve Kamb to explore what it really means to keep moving forward when things don’t go according to plan. We talk about why success in business development, leadership, fitness, and creative work often has less to do with having the perfect strategy and more to do with developing the ability to adjust, learn, and make another attempt. Steve shares lessons from stand-up comedy, golf, entrepreneurship, and his own experiences building businesses and writing his latest book, How to Try Again, offering a practical framework for navigating setbacks without getting stuck in them.

A major theme throughout our conversation is the tension between outcome-focused thinking and process-focused action. We discuss Steve’s PACT framework, the role of self-compassion after disappointment, why experimentation lowers the stakes of trying something new, and how high performers recover from setbacks more quickly by learning rather than dwelling. Whether you're pursuing new clients, launching a project, building relationships, or simply trying to make progress in an uncertain situation, this episode offers a thoughtful perspective on resilience, adaptation, and the long game of meaningful growth.

 

Topics We Cover in This Episode: 

  • Why comedians, entrepreneurs, and business developers all rely on repetition more than perfection

  • How the concept of “pre-accepting any outcome” can reduce anxiety and improve performance

  • The difference between persistence and continuing to push in the wrong direction

  • What Steve’s PACT framework teaches about responding to setbacks constructively

  • Why treating challenges as experiments can make change feel more approachable

  • How curiosity can be more useful than self-criticism when evaluating past failures

  • What separates people who recover quickly from disappointment from those who stay stuck

  • Why genuine generosity and relationship-building often outperform transactional networking approaches

If you've ever found yourself wondering what to do after a missed opportunity, a failed initiative, or a result that didn't match your expectations, I think you'll find this conversation both practical and encouraging. Tune in, subscribe so you never miss an episode, and share it with someone who could benefit from a fresh perspective on learning, adapting, and trying again.

 

Resources Mentioned:

Steve's Website: stevekamb.com

Order Steve's Book: https://stevekamb.com/howtotryagain/

https://www.nerdfitness.com/



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