Episode 433: Cancer Treatments for Noncancer Indications: Chemotherapy/Immunotherapy
Release Date: 09/18/2026
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“Unlike our cancer indications where we use these medications often to activate the immune system to target cancerous cells, in noncancer indications, the goal is really to either suppress an overactive immune or inflammatory cells or modulate the immune system. Immune modulation by use of chemotherapy and immunotherapy can help reduce abnormal inflammation, decrease autoantibody production, and also can alter T-cell and B-cell activity,” ONS member Kelsey Miller, MSN, RN, AGCNS-BC, OCN®, clinical nurse specialist in oncology and infusion therapy at Reading Hospital in West Reading, PA,...
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“It’s a chronic disease. It never goes away for some people, and so therefore it has these periods of remission where it’s really quiet and well controlled. Then there can be periods of flares where you’re actively engaged in treatment or it’s impacting other pieces. There’s this feeling patients have of, ‘When am I going to have that flare?’ You know, this anticipatory anxiety of, ‘When are things going to be done differently?’ or ‘When do I need to change?’” ONS member Caitlin Murphy, DNP, APRN, FNP-BC, AOCNP®, chief nurse practitioner at Dana-Farber Cancer...
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“Think about all the important things our kidneys do for the body. Those things are compromised. If we have excess buildup of toxins and waste in the body, you’re having problems with fluid reabsorption. Then you have also problems with electrolytes not being balanced. Then in turn, you have ongoing shutdown of systems. So the cardiopulmonary system gets compromise. Your circulatory system then gets compromised. And then all the things in the body that depend upon ongoing circulatory flow are then causing major resets in the system that need to be addressed,” ONS member Brenda S....
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“If you are considering board service, I would say take the leap. Start with your local chapter. It will give you some valuable skills that will help prepare you when you are applying for your national level. And I always say, if you want to do it, just do it because what’s the worst that can happen? They can say no, but that doesn’t mean that you will never serve on a board. I always tell people delayed is not denied,” Cassandra Green, DNP, RN, OCN®, ONS member and past president of the Oncology Nursing Certification Corporation (ONCC) Board of Directors, told Evelyn Wempe, DNP,...
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“They’re really worried that radiation is going to be painful. So they come in for that first day of treatment very anxious. With our patients with brain cancer, we’re using the masks on the table, and those masks are very tight and hold their heads very, very still. So they’ll be very worried about being claustrophobic. We may start out the first day or two with a little bit of [lorazepam]. And they’ll come to me and they’ll say, ‘This really hasn’t been as bad as I thought it was going to be,’” ONS member Catherine McCluskey, BSN, RN, OCN®, ROCN™, radiation oncology...
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“Measurable residual disease is where I think the terminology fits best in that, it is intended to measure the amount of cancer cells that are present in the blood or bone marrow at the time the sample was collected. We can identify one cancer cell in a million. Where that can be really valuable is when we start to think about the duration of treatments and the response to some of our treatments,” ONS member Caitlin Murphy, DNP, APRN, FNP-BC, AOCNP®, chief nurse practitioner at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston, MA, told Lenise Taylor, MN, RN, AOCNS®, TCTCN™, oncology clinical...
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“A good way of thinking about this is this is the survival of the fittest clone. There could be a portion of a cancer that naturally has some resistance or ability to survive a particular drug. And over time, as the other cells around it are dying off, that particular clone is able to replicate and continue to survive in the face of that drug therapy and eventually take over as being the fittest clone. At that point, we’re often seeing disease progression,” Danielle Roman, PharmD, BCOP, manager of clinical pharmacy services at the Allegheny Health Network Cancer Institute in Pittsburgh,...
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“When people with PTSD [post-traumatic stress disorder] get quite avoidant—and that can be expressed in so many different ways—the implications can be really profound. I think an important invitation to oncologists and oncology nurses and primary care providers who care for people battling cancer is let’s explore what's underneath these avoidant behaviors. Is it a very practical thing? Or is it that underneath this avoidant behavior is really profound fear?” James C. Jackson, PsyD, research professor at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, TN, told Lenise Taylor, MN,...
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“In oncology specifically, where care is complex, artificial intelligence (AI) can really synthesize large volumes of clinical information, flag risks such as treatment complications, and support adherence to evidence-based pathways. For nurses specifically, this enables them more time for direct patient care, clinical judgment, and care coordination, and really practice to the top of their license while reducing repetitive time and administrative tasks,” Jenn Frith, DNP, RN, OCN®, NE-BC, associate vice president of clinical operations at Duke Cancer Institute in Durham, NC, told Jaime...
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“Think about what organs lie in the radiation field, and anything that lies in that radiation field is likely going to have some potential temporary—hopefully temporary—side effects. If you think about the pelvis, the things that live in there are the bladder, urethra, some bowel, rectum, reproductive organs, skin, some lymph nodes. And so, all of those things could potentially have associated side effects,” ONS member Kayla Kafka-Peterson, BSN, RN, ROCN™, nurse navigator and leader in the brachytherapy and peri-anesthesia programs at UCLA Health, in Los Angeles, CA, told Lenise...
info_outline“Unlike our cancer indications where we use these medications often to activate the immune system to target cancerous cells, in noncancer indications, the goal is really to either suppress an overactive immune or inflammatory cells or modulate the immune system. Immune modulation by use of chemotherapy and immunotherapy can help reduce abnormal inflammation, decrease autoantibody production, and also can alter T-cell and B-cell activity,” ONS member Kelsey Miller, MSN, RN, AGCNS-BC, OCN®, clinical nurse specialist in oncology and infusion therapy at Reading Hospital in West Reading, PA, told Lenise Taylor, MN, RN, AOCNS®, TCTCN™, oncology clinical specialist at ONS, during a conversation about chemotherapy and immunotherapy for noncancer indications.
Music Credit: “Fireflies and Stardust” by Kevin MacLeod
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Episode Notes
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- ONS Podcast™ episodes:
- ONS Voice articles:
- JAK1 Inhibitor Quickly Relieves ICI-Related Dermatitis
- Oncology Drug Reference Sheet: Cyclophosphamide
- Oncology Drug Reference Sheet: Methotrexate
- What Oncology Nurses Need to Know About Arboviral Disease in Patients Receiving B-Cell–Depleting or –Modulating Therapies
- ONS books:
- Access Device Guidelines: Recommendations for Nursing Practice and Education (fourth edition)
- Chemotherapy and Immunotherapy Guidelines and Recommendations for Practice (second edition)
- Clinical Guide to Antineoplastic Therapy: A Chemotherapy Handbook (fourth edition)
- Clinical Journal of Oncology Nursing article: Early Recognition and Response of Chemotherapy-Induced Hypersensitivity Reactions: A Nursing Discussion
- ONS courses:
- ONS Fundamentals of Chemotherapy and Immunotherapy Administration™
- Safe Handling Basics
- Vascular Access Devices
- ONS Huddle Cards:
- ONS position statement: Education of the Nurse Who Administers and Cares for the Individual Receiving Antineoplastic Therapies
- American Academy of Neurology: Practice Guideline Recommendations: Disease-Modifying Therapies for Adults With Multiple Sclerosis
- American College of Rheumatology: Treatments
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- NCODA Patient Education Sheets
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Highlights From This Episode
“The most common immunotherapy agent that’s well known to both oncology and other autoimmune disorders is rituximab. And that is used for rheumatoid arthritis, granulomatous, and antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibodies (ANCA)-associated vasculitis. And then it also has many off-label indications for other autoimmune disorders, such as lupus and multiple sclerosis. It’s also used in immune thrombocytopenia and Sjogren’s condition.” TS 3:28
“Two common chemotherapy agents that come to mind that are used in lower doses for noncancer conditions are methotrexate, which helps modify the underlying disease process to reduce inflammation and preserve organ and joint function. And that’s most commonly used rheumatology-wise first-line for rheumatoid arthritis and psoriatic arthritis. A second chemotherapy agent that’s well known to oncology is cyclophosphamide, and that really serves as a powerful immunosuppressant for conditions such as ANCA-associated vasculitis and severe lupus nephritis.” TS 3:57
“When talking about the monoclonal antibody frequency, it’s often shorter in our oncology indications. We may see it weekly, every 21 days, every 28 days—compared to our autoimmune disorders that are months in between. This is really due to cancer cells continuously proliferating, so we need to stop the growth and not allow residual cancer cells to remain. And for the monoclonal antibodies, for example, rituximab again, it’s depleting B cells that contribute to autoantibody production and inflammation. So targeting that after one to two infusions, the peripheral B cells are often depleted within days to weeks because of how well the drug works, how targeted it is. Those effects may persist for 6–12 months or even longer.” TS 8:39
“Infection prevention education—it’s so important to get to know the patient to individualize your teaching. For example, you need to know what matters most of the patients when they go home. Are they taking care of their grandchildren? Do they love to go outside and garden and do mulching? Are they cleaning up their chicken coop? So those kind of things, as a nurse, you can then help tailor your education so you can help prevent infection in these patients because I don’t think just standard run-of-the-mill infection prevention teaching is as beneficial as when you can individualize it for that patient.” TS 17:33
“If organizations are going to allow non-oncology nurses to administer, we just want to make sure that there is an established process or a protocol to administer rescue medications. That may include what you’re already doing if you have a change in patient condition—calling for activating that emergency response system if you’re in an inpatient setting. When we look at our ambulatory infusion centers that may have non-oncology nurses administering, you still have to have that training and competency verification and also emergency medical equipment readily available. That would include oxygen and your rescue medications. For the non-oncology nurse, some key points are to make sure that you check on your patient throughout these infusions and have that conversation up front to report any symptoms, both big and small.” TS 23:06
“For safe handling, there are many misconceptions that it differs between cancer and non-cancer. When I first started at our organization, even some providers may minimize the risk for low-dose oral chemotherapy. However, it’s still metabolized and excreted through our bodily fluids. And we know that traditional chemotherapy, like methotrexate and cyclophosphamide, is cytotoxic. So if a patient’s prescribed them for noncancer indications, you still need to cover the basics, like shared bathrooms, what to do if there’s contaminated linen, and also bring up the topic of contraception to ensure that our patients and their partners remain safe and do not get exposed.” TS 27:13