140. Marcus Jernmark: Redefining Fine Dining in LA
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In this episode of On The Pass, Gabriel Ornelas sits down with Swedish-born chef Marcus Jernmark — one of the most accomplished chefs of his generation, known for leading some of the world’s most celebrated kitchens, including Restaurant Frantzén and Zén, both awarded three Michelin stars. After a global career spanning Aquavit and Per Se, Marcus has quietly spent the last four years in Los Angeles — observing, learning, and rethinking what fine dining can be. Now, with the opening of Lielle, Marcus is stepping into a new chapter. This is not another fine dining restaurant. This...
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139. Andrew + Michelle Muñoz: Inside Moo’s Craft Barbecue
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In this episode of On The Pass, Gabriel Ornelas sits down with Andrew and Michelle Muñoz, the husband-and-wife team behind Moo's Craft Barbecue — one of the most celebrated barbecue restaurants in Los Angeles. What started as a humble backyard project between friends has grown into a nationally recognized destination for Texas-style barbecue in LA, earning critical acclaim, a Michelin Bib Gourmand, and a James Beard Award nomination. But this conversation goes far beyond brisket and smoke. Andrew and Michelle share the story of building Moo’s from the ground up —...
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138. Nancy Silverton: Building Restaurants That Last
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Nancy Silverton on Purpose, Loss, Leadership & Building Restaurants That Last This weeks On The Pass episode, Gabriel Ornelas sits down with culinary icon Nancy Silverton — chef, restaurateur, mentor, and co-founder of the Mozza Restaurant Group. From helping define California cuisine to building an international restaurant empire that includes Osteria Mozza, Pizzeria Mozza, and Chi Spacca, Nancy has shaped the way America eats. But this conversation goes far beyond food. Nancy opens up about: - Imposter syndrome — and why it may be her secret fuel - The...
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137. Matt Crafton: Building for the Next 50 Years
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This conversation is about much more than wine. On this episode of On The Pass, we sit down with Matt Crafton, winemaker at the legendary Chateau Montelena, as the winery approaches a historic milestone—50 years since the Judgment of Paris reshaped the global perception of American wine. Rather than rehashing history, this conversation looks forward. Matt shares his unconventional path into winemaking, from leaving finance behind, starting at the bottom of the cellar, and embracing craft over comfort, to now stewarding one of the most iconic names in Napa Valley alongside CEO Bo Barrett....
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136. José Luis Hinostroza: Calm, Fire and Belonging
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In this episode of On The Pass, with José Luis Hinostroza, the chef behind ARCA, a jungle-rooted restaurant shaped by fire, place, and pre-colonial Mesoamerican tradition. José Luis’ journey spans some of the world’s most influential kitchens — Alinea, El Celler de Can Roca, and Noma — where he later joined the R&D team for Noma Mexico. But rather than chasing prestige, he chose presence, calm, and connection, ultimately building a life and community in Tulum. Recorded just after a powerful collaboration dinner celebrating 10 years of ARCA, with chefs flying in from...
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135. Hot Spot: Travis Swikard of Callie + Fleurette
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Chef Travis Swikard has become one of the most influential voices shaping the future of West Coast dining. After years cooking at the highest levels in New York, Travis returned home to San Diego to create Callie, a restaurant that has redefined Southern California cuisine and captured national attention. Now, he’s preparing to open Fleurette, his most intimate and personal restaurant yet — a project rooted in craft, memory, and a deep sense of place. In this conversation, Travis opens up about the moments that shaped him: the early lessons that forged his discipline, the risk of...
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134. Or Amsalam: 10 Years of Bread & Belonging
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What does it take to build a bakery that becomes the soul of a neighborhood? In this episode of On The Pass, host Gabriel Ornelas sits down with Or Amsalam, chef and co-founder of Lodge Bread Co., one of Los Angeles’ most influential and beloved artisan bakeries. For nearly a decade, Lodge Bread Co. has been more than a place for great bread — it has become a cultural pillar, a symbol of craft, care, and community. Or shares how his Israeli–Moroccan heritage shaped his palate, how failure became a teacher, and how the bakery’s recent Culver City expansion is a way of giving back to the...
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133. Eduard Xatruch: Inside the World’s #1 Restaurant
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In this special in-depth conversation, Gabriel Ornelas sits down with Chef Eduard Xatruch, one of the three creative forces behind Disfrutar — the #1 restaurant in the world (World’s 50 Best 2024) and a three-Michelin-stardestination redefining modern gastronomy. From the legacy of El Bulli to the philosophy of “creative cooking,” Eduard reflects on his lifelong pursuit of innovation, collaboration, and meaning. He opens up about the power of partnership with fellow chefs Oriol Castro and Mateu Casañas, the discipline required to harness creativity (“creativity is a beast,...
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A New Era of Culinary Greatness | In Partnership with S.Pellegrino
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A New Course is a special three-part video series presented by On The Pass, in partnership with S.Pellegrino and the S.Pellegrino Young Chef Academy — a celebration of mentorship, creativity, and the future of gastronomy. Featuring culinary icons like Nancy Silverton, Aisha Ibrahim, and Brad Kilgore, alongside emerging voices such as Charlie Mitchell and Garrett Brower, each episode explores the deeper meaning of competition, leadership, and community in shaping the next generation of chefs. It offers a rare glimpse into the minds and hearts of chefs across generations who are redefining...
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132. Curtis Stone: Leading With Vision
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In this episode of On The Pass, Gabriel Ornelas sits down with world-renowned chef, restaurateur, and creative force Curtis Stone — a figure who has spent nearly two decades evolving from fine dining in Beverly Hills, to live fire at Gwen, to his latest chapter with Woodend at Maroma, A Belmond Hotel in Mexico. Curtis has worn many hats: Michelin-starred chef, butcher, farmer, TV personality, cookbook author, Emmy-nominated producer, and entrepreneur. But beneath the accolades lies a deeper story — one about vision, leadership, reinvention, and the pursuit of meaning in both...
info_outlineIn this episode of On The Pass, Gabriel Ornelas sits down with Swedish-born chef Marcus Jernmark — one of the most accomplished chefs of his generation, known for leading some of the world’s most celebrated kitchens, including Restaurant Frantzén and Zén, both awarded three Michelin stars.
After a global career spanning Aquavit and Per Se, Marcus has quietly spent the last four years in Los Angeles — observing, learning, and rethinking what fine dining can be.
Now, with the opening of Lielle, Marcus is stepping into a new chapter.
This is not another fine dining restaurant. This is a redefinition...
Blending the warmth and accessibility of a bistro with the precision and intention of Michelin-level cooking, Lielle represents a shift — away from excess, away from “smoke and mirrors,” and toward something more human, more grounded, and more nourishing.
In this conversation, Marcus reflects on:
- What Los Angeles has taught him about food, culture, and community
- Why he chose patience over speed in building his first independent project
- The responsibility of leading teams and building sustainable kitchens
- The realities of burnout, mentorship, and longevity in the hospitality industry
- And how becoming a father has reshaped his perspective on success and legacy
This episode is not just about food...It’s about evolution.
It’s about redefining excellence — without losing yourself in the process.
And it’s about why Los Angeles may be one of the most important dining cities in the world right now.
If you care about restaurants, leadership, creativity, or the future of hospitality — this is a conversation worth sitting with.
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