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Release Date: 06/15/2025
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Triggernometry Fallout: What Real Difficult Conversations Sound Like with Katy Jon Went
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info_outline🎙️ Triggernometry Fallout: What Real Difficult Conversations Sound Like – with Katy Jon Went
After the now-infamous Triggernometry episode with Deborah Frances-White (the Guilty Feminist) sparked widespread debate, this episode is the antidote. Penny Dee sits down with Katy Jon Went – speaker, writer, and veteran of difficult conversations – for a real, respectful, and unfiltered discussion about identity, belief, and backlash in today’s divided world.
From confronting family dynamics to defending free speech, Katy brings a lifetime of experience to the table. No spin. No shutdowns. Just proper conversation.
👉 If you’ve ever felt stuck between staying silent and speaking your truth, this one’s for you.
🎧 What You'll Learn:
✔️ How to approach controversial topics without confrontation
✔️ Why disagreement doesn’t mean disrespect
✔️ How to deal with public backlash and online conflict
✔️ Why humour and curiosity still matter
✔️ The difference between “having a conversation” and delivering a lecture
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🌐 Connect with Katy Jon Went:
Website: https://www.katyjon.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katyjonwent
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🕰️ Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Early Life
00:46 Navigating Identity and Family Dynamics
01:53 The Complexity of Conversations
03:39 Confrontation vs. Conversation
07:43 The Importance of Free Speech
11:27 Changing Beliefs and Open-Mindedness
18:47 Navigating Political and Social Nuances
32:50 Exploring Human Rights in Gender Debates
33:46 Finding Common Ground in Disagreements
34:41 Personal Experiences with Differing Opinions
35:56 The Importance of Open-Minded Conversations
37:26 Navigating Public Discourse and Backlash
44:53 The Role of Humor in Sensitive Topics
55:28 The Impact of Algorithms on Social Discourse
59:07 Encouraging Meaningful Conversations
01:01:38 Final Thoughts and Contact Information