Permanent Record Podcast
State of the Podcast: August 2026 We hope everyone is well. We plan to be back talking about PSB "Please" before the end of the month. In the meantime, you can check out the sites mentioned in this brief episode here: Read more at Visit us at https://www.facebook.com/permrecordpodcast Check out some pictures at You can also find us on Threads: Join the ever-growing crowd on BlueSky: Leave a voicemail for Brian & Sarah at (724) 490-8324 or - we're ready to believe you!
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Episode 204: In Conversation with Grant Walters – Co-Author of “Decades: The Bee Gees in the 1980s” – Part 2 In this episode, Brian and Sarah continue their conversation with Grant Walters, co-author of the Decades series of books covering the career of the Bee Gees. The latest volume, Decades: The Bee Gees in the 1980s, has just been released in the UK, and it will be available to purchase in the US in September. Part 2 of the discussion finds Grant, Brian, and Sarah talking about the solo work undertaken by Barry, Robin, and Maurice during the 1980s. Barry released a solo...
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Episode 203: Concert Report – Alison Moyet, Soft Cell, & The Human League (June 2026) Hardly any time has passed since their last episode was released, but Brian and Sarah are already back with another episode for your listening enjoyment! This time, they’re here to give a report on the recent concert they attended on June 28 at The Met Philadelphia, which featured an amazing triple bill of Alison Moyet, Soft Cell, and The Human League. Brian and Sarah were fortunate enough to have just seen Alison Moyet in April 2025 for her Key tour, and they saw Soft Cell for the...
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Episode 202: In Conversation with Grant Walters – Co-Author of “Decades: The Bee Gees in the 1980s” – Part 1 A few years ago, Brian and Sarah had the privilege and pleasure to speak with Grant Walters, one of the authors of a fantastic series of books chronicling the careers of Barry, Robin, and Maurice Gibb—also known as the Bee Gees. The first two installments of the Decades series were written by Grant Walters, Andrew Môn Hughes, and Mark Crohan, and cover the 1960s and the 1970s. The newest edition of Decades is written by Grant Walter and Andrew Môn Hughes, and not...
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Episode 201: Pet Shop Boys – Please (1986) – Part 2 Welcome to Part 2 of Brian and Sarah’s discussion of Please, the debut album from the Pet Shop Boys. In Part 1, our hosts set the stage by talking about the formation of the band, Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe’s work with Bobby Orlando, the recording of the album with producer Stephen Hague, and the release and reception of the album. Along with special guest Andrew Dineley, our hosts also shared their personal histories of becoming familiar with Pet Shop Boys’ music and their memories of the album Please. In this episode, it’s...
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PRP 007 Mini-Broadcast: Episode 10 – The Man with the Golden Gun (With Robbie Sims) This is a rarity as far as Permanent Record Podcast episodes go. Yes, it's an episode with show notes penned by Brian and not Sarah. Sarah has one job once the episode has been recorded: to write the show notes. But this time, she was nowhere to be found and everyone's second-favorite host, who already does so much, was left holding the bag! I guess I'll start with the stuff that is ALWAYS part of these 007 episodes..... Since the beginning of the show, Brian has done his best...
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Episode 200: Pet Shop Boys – Please (1986) (Featuring Andrew Dineley of “Art on Your Sleeve”) – Part 1 and Colours of Ever announcement The 200th “regular” episode of Permanent Record Podcast is here! (“Regular” excludes special episodes and the PRP 007 Mini-Broadcasts, which don’t follow the same numbering scheme.) Brian and Sarah wanted to do something big and special for episode 200, so they chose to cover an album which recently celebrated its 40th anniversary: Please, the debut album from the Pet Shop Boys. And to make the episode even bigger and more special,...
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PRP 007 Mini-Broadcast: Episode 9– Live and Let Die (With Robbie Sims) Since the beginning of the show, Brian has done his best to strong-arm discussion of Agent 007 into as many podcasts as he could. Finally he convinced Sarah to embark on a new mission: the Permanent Record Podcast 007 Mini-Broadcast! This occasional series from your friends Brian & Sarah started with "Dr. No" and will work its way up to the most recent Bond adventure, and on the way, it will discuss and critique all of the 007 theme songs and other relevant recordings. It's a dream come true for one of the hosts -...
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Bonus Episode: In Conversation with Rob Rowe: WHITEWAITS/VHXRR/Cause and Effect (2026) Brian and Sarah are delighted to welcome back a previous and much-beloved guest of the Permanent Record Podcast, Rob Rowe. In past episodes, Rob has been here with Von Hertzog, who together make up the excellent duo VHxRR. However, this time Rob is here to represent his solo project, WHITEWAITS. After a hiatus of more than a dozen years, WHITEWAITS is releasing a new album, called Dusk Becomes Dawn. It’s a collection of nine stellar tracks which explore familiar topics like darkness, despair,...
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Bonus Episode: In Conversation with Blaklight (Adam Collier, Brian Belknap, and Omar Quiñones) 2026 In this episode, Brian and Sarah have the great pleasure of talking with Brian Belknap, Adam Collier, and Omar Quiñones of the band BlakLight. BlakLight was formed as a duo back in 2020, and our hosts chatted with Brian and Adam back in March 2021. A lot has changed with the band since then, so it was definitely time to do some catching up. In the conversation, our hosts find out how Omar came to join the band, as well as learning more about Omar and his other musical endeavors. They...
info_outlineEpisode 197: In Conversation with Chris Trapper

Brian and Sarah were thrilled to have the opportunity to speak with Chris Trapper, a singer-songwriter whose musical livelihood began in the 1990s. In addition to writing, recording, and performing as lead singer and guitarist in the band The Push Stars, Chris also has a prolific solo career, releasing more than a dozen albums and EPs, touring the country extensively on his own, and opening for artists such as Pat Benatar and Colin Hay. Additionally, Chris’s songs have been featured in numerous television shows and films over the years.

Chris Trapper’s latest album, Watching Sparks Fly By, was released earlier in 2025, and Brian and Sarah learn from Chris about the making of the album as well as stories behind some of the songs. They also find out more about his songwriting and creative process in general, and how he feels about writing and recording music compared to performing in front of a live audience.
Since Brian and Sarah are big fans of Colin Hay—they were first introduced to Chris’s music in 2012 when he opened for Colin Hay—they can’t help but ask Chris a few questions about Colin, and they talk about the fact that Colin covered one of Chris’s songs on Colin’s 2022 album Now and the Evermore. Being fans of Pat Benatar as well, they also ask Chris about touring with Pat and her husband Neil Gerardo, and Chris reveals some impressive comments he received from both of them.

Chris turns the tables at the end of the interview and asks a few questions of Brian and Sarah, which leads to an exclusive moment you won’t find anywhere else—Chris Trapper singing Depeche Mode!
It’s a warm, engaging conversation with a lot of laughs interspersed between great stories, so you won’t want to miss this one!

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Visit https://www.christrapper.com/ for information and access to his music.

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