In Conversation with Rob Rowe: WHITEWAITS/VHXRR/Cause and Effect (2026)
Release Date: 03/19/2026
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Bonus Episode: In Conversation with Rob Rowe: WHITEWAITS/VHXRR/Cause and Effect (2026) Brian and Sarah are delighted to welcome back a previous and much-beloved guest of the Permanent Record Podcast, Rob Rowe. In past episodes, Rob has been here with Von Hertzog, who together make up the excellent duo VHxRR. However, this time Rob is here to represent his solo project, WHITEWAITS. After a hiatus of more than a dozen years, WHITEWAITS is releasing a new album, called Dusk Becomes Dawn. It’s a collection of nine stellar tracks which explore familiar topics like darkness, despair,...
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Brian and Sarah are delighted to welcome back a previous and much-beloved guest of the Permanent Record Podcast, Rob Rowe. In past episodes, Rob has been here with Von Hertzog, who together make up the excellent duo VHxRR. However, this time Rob is here to represent his solo project, WHITEWAITS.
After a hiatus of more than a dozen years, WHITEWAITS is releasing a new album, called Dusk Becomes Dawn. It’s a collection of nine stellar tracks which explore familiar topics like darkness, despair, loss, and love, all with incredibly catchy melodies, intelligent lyrics, and impeccable vocals.

Brian and Sarah sit down with Rob and do a deep-dive into Dusk Becomes Dawn, learning details about the creative process as well as inspirations and meanings behind the songs. But the questions don’t all come from our hosts; Brian and Sarah asked a few other folks, most of them associated with Rob in some form or fashion, to provide questions for their guest. They range in depth from ‘favorite snack while writing’ to ‘what has changed in Synthpop since 1991,’ with many falling in between.
It’s a warm, friendly, and enlightening conversation, but you won’t want to listen for just those reasons. You’ll want to listen so you can get the details on how you can win your own copy of Dusk Before Dawn on compact disc! And trust us; you’ll want to do whatever you can (legally, of course!) to get a copy of this fantastic album!
Learn more at https://www.whitewaits.com/
Get the music at https://whitewaits.bandcamp.com/

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