Alison Pidgeon | Being A Group Practice Boss | TPOT 147
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Release Date: 09/28/2020
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Carla Titus is a finance expert with over 15 years of combined corporate financial planning, analysis, strategy, and online businesses experience. She provides fractional CFO services and financial consulting to business owners looking to grow their business profitably. Her priorities for her clients are to help them grow profits, have cash in the bank, and pay themselves well so they can build personal wealth. The journey to financial success in any business requires a solid foundation and forward-thinking strategies. Carla, a seasoned financial advisor, emphasizes the critical role of...
info_outline Dr. Liz Lasky | Adapting Private Practice for Modern Needs | TPOT 321The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
This episode covers Dr. Liz Lasky's transformative shift from traditional therapy to coaching, driven by her quest for personal fulfillment and financial success. Embracing skepticism, she champions that therapists can thrive financially while providing valuable services, inspiring others to pursue their dreams. We speak about diverse opportunities for therapists, stressing the need for innovation in the evolving landscape of mental health care. She advocates for balancing roles as a business owner and entrepreneur, believing it's safe to have it all. Dr. Lasky reframes success, encouraging...
info_outline Kristie Plantinga | A Guide to Effective Digital Marketing Tactics in Private Practice | TPOT 320The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Kristie Plantinga is a mental health nerd, writer, and marketer living in Colorado. She is the founder of TherapieSEO—a marketing agency serving therapists and coaches—and —a therapist directory that vets therapists so therapy-seekers can focus on fit, not quality. When she’s not writing about mental health and dreaming up creative content strategies, Kristie can be found snuggling her multiple terriers, sipping a homemade dirty chai, and half-helping her husband cook Lebanese food. This episode is all about navigating the evolving landscape of digital marketing. Kristie emphasizes the...
info_outline Malka Shaw | Combating Anti-Semitism: Strategies for Therapists in Private Practice | TPOT 319The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Malka is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in New Jersey, New York, and Florida. She has been in the mental health field for over 25 years and has successfully run her private practice for the last 15 years. In response to the events of October 7th and the ongoing situation, Malka Shaw, LCSW and Stacey Shapiro, LCSW, have co-founded the Kesher Shalom Project. This initiative, led by seasoned trauma specialists, has trained over 2000 therapists globally. Their training equips therapists with vital tools to aid Jewish clients during the conflict, covering trauma assessments, practical...
info_outline Jason Frishman | Presence and Mindfulness: Balancing Work and Family | TPOT 318The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
has been working for over 20 years to support individuals, groups, families, organizations, and businesses. Jason is excited to bring over two decades of work in offices, institutions, kitchens, farmers’ markets, woodlots, and boardrooms to wild new environments. Whether as a psychotherapist, the creator and founder of JourneyMen, public speaker, thought leader, or narrative consultant, Jason believes that our lives are adventurous, and we can and should be active, engaged authors of our own adventure stories! In this episode, Jason critiques the societal norms that suppress male...
info_outline Ashley Darnall | Digital Marketing Success in Private Practice | TPOT 317The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Ashley is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and mental health copywriter for therapists. In her professional work as a clinician, Ashley has experience with in-patient counseling and case management, outpatient counseling, and medical and insurance practice. In the realm of SEO and private practice, the importance of user experience is often overlooked, leading therapists to rush into website setup without addressing essential business aspects. This mistake stems from a lack of business education during clinical training. To enhance online visibility, therapists must define their ideal client,...
info_outline Jennifer McGurk | Pursuing Private Practice: Insights From a Dietician | TPOT 316The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Jennifer McGurk RDN, CDN, CEDS-S is the founder and CEO of Pursuing Private Practice. She began her career in business as a dietitian in private practice. She grew her private practice into a group practice and eventually expanded into speaking, offering workshops, and supervising other professionals. In this episode, Jennifer guides us in overcoming imposter syndrome and navigating the complexities of private practice, promoting diversified offerings beyond one-on-one sessions for a broader impact in the field. Her career in dietetics has undergone a significant transformation from a...
info_outline Jamal Jones | Shifting Mindsets: Value-Based Pricing in Private Practice | TPOT 315The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
In this episode, chats about navigating the hurdles of partnering with a tech company and transitioning to a sustainable private pay model. We explore his growth, financial transformation, and improved relationship with his work. Beyond his personal journey, Jamal dives into profound topics like faith, abundance, and financial wellness, providing insights into mental health entrepreneurship and the adoption of value-based pricing. Join Jamal in recognizing the worth of mental health professionals, navigating industry challenges, and embracing a mindset that transforms setbacks into success....
info_outline Stefani Cohen | Getting Really Niche Specific: A Tale of Overcoming Fears | TPOT 314The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
EmBARK on a transformative journey with Stefani Cohen as we chat about Stefani shares the heartfelt story of her daughter Becky's unexpected fear of dogs, navigating a landscape void of resources. Through the prism of exposure therapy, Stefani witnessed Becky's remarkable transformation, sparking a commitment to extend her expertise to a wider audience. Stefani authored a comprehensive guide aimed at parents, therapists, dog trainers, grandparents, and dog enthusiasts. We dive into the book's core components, emphasizing education about dog behavior and the empowering journey of...
info_outline Susanne Mariga | Strategies for Long-Term Prosperity in Private Practice | TPOT 313The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Susanne Mariga is a Certified Public Accountant (CPA) and Certified Tax Coach specializing in business and personal tax planning. In the realm of private practice, Susanne brings a wealth of insight to the table, emphasizing the significance of Mindful Money Mastery. Reflecting on her own transformative journey as a profit-first professional and coach, Susanne underscores the need for business owners, particularly in service-driven fields, to redefine success individually. Passionate about service, she champions aligning thoughts, behaviors, and feelings with financial goals, asserting...
info_outlineIn this episode, Alison explains what it is like to run a group practice, like a boss! Alison is into tracking data; she likes to make her decisions based on numbers. You’ll hear loads of tips about having a group practice. For instance, don’t wait to delegate for when you’re stressed out and on the verge of burn out – it’s probably time to delegate today! Stay tuned as Alison explains how she finds the best clinicians for her practice, the ways that she compensates her staff, and why she utilizes an employee model rather than an independent contractor model.
Meet Alison Pidgeon
Alison Pidgeon, MA, LPC is the Founder and CEO of Move Forward Counseling LLC. What started out as a solo private practice in early 2015 quickly grew into a group practice and has been expanding ever since.
Alison has been working in the mental health field since 2003. She graduated from Immaculata University with a master's degree in counseling psychology in 2007. She earned her license as a professional counselor (LPC) in 2009. Her time spent working in community mental health helped to shape her as a leader and made her aware of the problems which exist in the mental health system.
Taking what she learned from the traditional model of mental health care, Alison set out to create something different when she started her private practice. Her attention to detail to the whole client experience and treating her staff exceptionally well have created a reputation of excellence that is recognized by the community.
Learn How To Delegate
Practice owners get caught in the trap of bootstrapping everything like answering the phone and cleaning the office. Why? Because they want to save money. However, you are putting a hard cap on how large you can grow your business. There’s a way to make sure you’re hiring trustworthy people who will do good work and be reliable. It’s possible to delegate sooner than you need to. People wait too long to start delegating. Don’t wait until your drowning at work.
Find Good Clinicians
When starting a group practice, it’s essential to find the best clinicians. However, whenever clinicians wanted to join Alison, they said they couldn’t because they needed health insurance. That’s why Alison decided to switch from an independent contracting model to an employee model. That way, Alison can offer her employees the opportunity to have health insurance. This has been a total game-changer for Alison. Her turnover rate is a lot lower. Plus, she gets so many more applications with the employee model.
Moving Toward Group Practice
Look at your systems. This will have to change when you hire people. Most likely, your systems will only work for a private practice rather than group practice. For instance, you may need multiple phone extensions. Plus, you’ll need to change up your website. Change your wording from “I” to “we.” Also, think about whether or not you want to be a boss. Managing people is a significant aspect of group practice. If that sounds terrible, then group practice may not be right for you. Think long and hard about what you love to do.
Determining Fit
It would help if you were clear about your mission, vision, and values. Your values will speak a lot about the culture of your practice. You can even print these things out and have your potential clinicians look it over. The clearer you are about what you want will help you attract the right people and repel the wrong people. Having a problem employee is a nightmare and not worth the stress. That’s why Alison is picky about who she hires. Alison wants her clinicians to be organized, timely, and self-sufficient. If a clinician isn’t organized enough to manage themselves, it will not be a good fit. Also, Alison values boundaries – you can’t teach good judgment. So Alison wants to know if her potential clinicians have good boundaries with their clients.
Recruiting
Alison uses Indeed.com, plus she has an employment page on her website. She gets quite a few resumes through that as well. Therapists talk to each other. So one therapist will tell their friends. That’s why Alison likes to have an employment page on her website so that people can reach out to her directly.
Compensation
Alison says that compensation will depend on the laws in your state. In Pennsylvania, there’s not a lot of options. Alison pays her therapists more to see a client and less for administrative work. She doesn’t go the salaried route because your therapists will get paid the same amount no matter how many clients they have. At a minimum, they have to do twenty-five hours a week. If they want more, then they can earn a bonus. However, they don’t need to work forty hours a week if they don’t want to.
Being transparent… Some of the resources below use affiliate links which simply means we receive a commission if you purchase using the links, at no extra cost to you. Thanks for using the links!
Alison's Resources
Email Alison: [email protected]
Move Forward Counseling
Consulting with Alison
Alison Pidgeon | Buying An Office And Growing A Private Practice
Group Practice Boss
Resources
Use the promo code "GORDON" to get 2 months of Therapy Notes free.
Learn more about GreenOak Accounting
Listen to Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Use my link for 1 Month FREE of Brighter Vision services
Brighter Vision Fall Into Cash Event
Sign up for Killin’It Camp – October 5-7, 2020
G Suite for Therapists | The E-Course
Session Note Helper 3.0
Money Matters in Private Practice | The Course
Join the G-Suite for Therapists Users Group
Cool Resources
Follow @TPOTpodcast on Instagram
Meet Gordon Brewer, MEd, LMFT
Gordon is the person behind The Practice of Therapy Podcast & Blog. He is also President and Founder of Kingsport Counseling Associates, PLLC. He is a therapist, consultant, business mentor, trainer, and writer. PLEASE Subscribe to The Practice of Therapy Podcast wherever you listen to it. Follow us on Twitter @therapistlearn, and Pinterest, “Like” us on Facebook.