Andrea Rotondo | Private Practice Finances Don’t Have to Suck | TPOT 390
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Release Date: 07/14/2025
Tara Vossenkemper | The Culture Code for Group Practice | TPOT 392
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Ready to Build a Private Practice People Actually Want to Work In? If you've ever wondered what it really takes to build a group practice with heart, soul, and systems that don’t make your team want to scream into a pillow, this episode is for you. Gordon sits down with the brilliant (and refreshingly honest) Tara Vossenkemper, founder, leadership nerd, and culture whisperer, to talk about the magic behind creating a practice culture where therapists actually feel seen, supported, and inspired. They’re diving into everything from core values that aren’t just fluff, to EOS (aka the...
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Marissa Wells | Private Practice Meets Caregiving | TPOT 391
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Ever feel like you're stuck between a full caseload and a full calendar of doctor’s appointments - for your parents? You're not alone. In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, Marissa Wells joins Gordon to talk about what it really looks like to juggle private practice while caring for aging family members. She’s not here to preach “perfect balance”—because let’s face it, that doesn’t exist. Instead, Marissa shares her wisdom on finding harmony, navigating proactive grief, setting real boundaries, and reconnecting with joy in the midst of it all. Whether...
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Andrea Rotondo | Private Practice Finances Don’t Have to Suck | TPOT 390
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Ever feel like you're crushing it in session but completely lost when it comes to your practice’s finances? You’re not alone—and you're definitely not broken. In this episode of The Practice of Therapy, Andrea Rotondo is here to pull back the curtain on the real reason so many therapists avoid their numbers (spoiler: it’s not laziness), and how to stop letting fear and overwhelm run the show. If QuickBooks makes you want to cry, if you’ve ever Googled “what is a P&L?” at midnight, or if you just want to feel a little more confident talking to your accountant, this...
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Dr. Marie Fang | What’s Really Burning You Out in Private Practice? | TPOT 389
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Ever find yourself staring at the ceiling at 8 PM wondering, “Was that the right intervention?” Or maybe you’re drowning in admin work, questioning if private practice is really the freedom-filled dream everyone said it would be? In this episode, Gordon sits down with Marie from Private Practice Skills—a therapist, creator, and all-around wise human who gets the real behind-the-scenes of therapy life. We’re diving into the kind of conversations we need to be having: therapist burnout (the sneaky kind), invisible work hours, how outsourcing might save your sanity, and why you don’t...
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Gary Katz | Build a Group Practice on Connection, Not Chaos | TPOT 388
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
🎧 Ready to Grow Your Practice Without Losing Your Soul? This Episode’s for You. In this episode, Gordon sits down with Gary Katz—psychotherapist, group practice owner, and intimacy expert—who’s scaling his business across state lines without sacrificing connection, clinical quality, or his sanity. Gary opens up about what it really takes to grow a group practice that feels good, not just on paper, but in your body, your calendar, and your team culture. From building tight-knit pods of therapists to letting go of perfection and people-pleasing, this conversation is packed with honest...
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Edy Nathan | Supporting Clients Through Complex Grief in Private Practice | TPOT 387
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Let’s talk about grief. (I know—what a fun little opener, right?) But hang in there, because Edy Nathan doesn’t talk about grief the way most people do. There’s no clinical detachment or textbook jargon here. Edy speaks from the kind of deep, personal knowing that only comes from living it. She lost her partner at 27—a heartbreak that didn’t just shatter her world, but reshaped it completely. Instead of stuffing it down or soldiering through, Edy got curious. She studied grief, sat with it, wrote about it, and eventually made it her life’s work. Today, she helps others see grief...
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Kerry Thomas | Mood, Food, and Medicine in Private Practice | TPOT 386
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
What if your private practice could be a place where people stop trying to fix themselves—and start actually feeling what’s going on inside? In this powerful episode, Kerry Thomas pulls back the curtain on her 25-year journey in mental health, sharing how a personal wake-up call challenged everything she thought she knew about therapy, medication, and what it really means to heal. We talk about the connection between nutrition and mood, why numbing emotions isn’t the answer, and how private practice therapists can stop pathologizing normal human experiences. This one’s...
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Julie Herres | Private Practice Tax Changes Ahead | TPOT 385
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Let’s be honest: when someone says “Let’s talk tax law,” most of us want to fake a Wi-Fi outage and run for cover. But when Julie Herres joins The Practice of Therapy Podcast, you actually want to lean in. Somehow, she manages to make the ever-shifting sands of tax policy sound (dare we say it?) friendly — like a conversation over coffee with a really smart friend who also color-codes her spreadsheets. So, what’s happening with taxes in 2025? Buckle up, practice owners, because there’s a whole lot of “maybe” in the air. But Julie’s here to help us wade through the...
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Dori Lewis | Should you Consider Integrating Psychedelics into Trauma Work in Private Practice? | TPOT 384
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
What if the path to healing trauma isn’t just through talk therapy, but through carefully guided psychedelic experiences? In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, I sit down with Dori, an experienced therapist and psychedelic facilitator, who shares her deeply informed perspective on the nuanced, responsible, and transformational use of medicines like ketamine, MDMA, and psilocybin mushrooms. Dori doesn’t just follow trends—she’s been on the frontlines, participating in research, working underground before legalization, and now helping clients access inner healing...
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Tamar Blue | Creating a Safer Space for Peer Support and Digital Therapy | TPOT 383
The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Are you ready to discover a powerful new way to support your clients—and yourself? In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, Gordon sits down with Tamar Blue, founder of , a revolutionary platform that empowers therapists, coaches, and mental health advocates to create secure, community-driven support groups online. Whether you're a provider looking to scale your services or someone seeking a safe space to heal and connect, this conversation is packed with insight, innovation, and heart. Don’t miss this inspiring story of how one woman turned a passion for peer support into a...
info_outlineEver feel like you're crushing it in session but completely lost when it comes to your practice’s finances?
You’re not alone—and you're definitely not broken. In this episode of The Practice of Therapy, Andrea Rotondo is here to pull back the curtain on the real reason so many therapists avoid their numbers (spoiler: it’s not laziness), and how to stop letting fear and overwhelm run the show.
If QuickBooks makes you want to cry, if you’ve ever Googled “what is a P&L?” at midnight, or if you just want to feel a little more confident talking to your accountant, this conversation is for you. Andrea’s down-to-earth, practical, and totally non-judgy approach will help you stop avoiding and start owning your role as the CEO of your practice, without needing a finance degree or a personality transplant.
Trust us: this is the pep talk your bank account has been waiting for.
5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Why avoiding your numbers only makes them scarier
- How to start small and build financial confidence over time
- The must-have systems for solo and group practices
- How to make your financial tools actually work for you
- Why understanding your P&L is key to planning your life, not just your taxes
Resources Mentioned In This Episode
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Meet Andrea Rotondo
I founded Liquid Cents Bookkeeping to help therapy practice owners simplify their financial systems and rebuild QuickBooks, so cash flow finally makes sense.
With a background in psychology, military life, and being an immigrant, I understand the challenges of stepping into business ownership.
My passion is helping therapists like you build financial clarity and stability—so you can focus on your clients, knowing your practice’s finances support your goals.