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Episode 288 How to Have a Backbone and Boundaries with Dr. Jen Fry

Release Date: 10/31/2025

Episode 301 Be the Superhero of Your Story with Dr. Nelva Lee (Part 2)

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

John continues his conversation with Dr. Nelva Lee. In this episode they talk about the importance of pain and purpose in life, why avoiding hard moments can keep you stuck, learning from mistakes, and much more! In Part 1, they discussed the traditional model of public education and the need for new approaches to prepare the kids for real life or careers. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Why pain is not something to fear [05:29] - The two most important days of your life [06:50] - How faith guides Dr. Nelva’s decisions in leadership roles [11:32] - Respecting your audience...

Episode 300 300th Episode Celebration!

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

We’ve hit a huge milestone with our 300th episode! This episode is a very special conversation as John opens his heart about the podcast, where we’ve been, where we are, and where we are headed. John also takes time to say thank you. Thank you to the listeners/viewers who’ve been there, all the guests, the team behind the scenes, and all the people involved with the podcast for supporting us over the last nearly 6 years! John wants you to know you are part of the podcast family. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Celebrating Episode 300! [01:17] - How the idea of the podcast...

Episode 299 Be the Superhero of Your Story with Dr. Nelva Lee (Part 1)

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

John talks with Dr. Nelva Lee — author of several Christian-based books, entrepreneur, wife, mom, and candidate for Georgia Superintendent of Schools. Dr. Lee is the founder and CEO of Concrete Build Financing, former CEO of a vocational school for 20 years, and served as an adjunct professor for 10 years teaching healthcare administration. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [00:40] - Dr. Lee’s bio and backstory [06:17] - Running for Georgia Superintendent of Schools [09:24] - Outdated education system & preparing students for real life [13:16] - Georgia education...

Episode 298 Driving Change with Howard Pearl (Part 2)

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

John continues his conversation with Howard Pearl. They discuss how hard times are not our enemies, but opportunities to grow stronger and more compassionate and why mistakes are some of our best teachers. In Part 1, they talked about the importance of the right workplace culture, and how trust, respect, and integrity are the backbone of any successful organization. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - How true gratitude changes everything [01:05] - Turning problems into teachers [04:37] - Howard’s plans on writing a book [07:01] - Why failure is actually good [10:25] - Howard’s...

Episode 297 Driving Change with Howard Pearl (Part 1)

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

John talks with Howard Pearl — CEO of CARS (Charitable Adult Rides & Services), longtime C-Suite executive with over three decades of leadership experience, Harvard Business School OPM alumnus, serial entrepreneur and turnaround specialist. CARS is a nonprofit organization that helps other nonprofits raise money by running vehicle donation programs for them. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [00:55] - Howard’s bio and backstory [04:04] - Framework for building the right workplace culture [08:41] - Business success is all about relationships [10:56] - The mindset of...

Episode 296 Get Seen and Catapult Your Career with Lorraine K. Lee

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

John talks with Lorraine K. Lee — speaker, trainer, entrepreneur, founding editor at LinkedIn, first editor at Prezi, LinkedIn Learning and Stanford Continuing Studies instructor, founder of RISE Learning Solutions, and author of Unforgettable Presence: Get Seen, Gain Influence, and Catapult Your Career. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [01:03] - Lorraine’s bio and backstory [04:29] - What LinkedIn was like in the early days [05:48] - Leaving LinkedIn for Prezi [07:09] - Getting laid off and the reality of layoffs [08:40] - What prompted Lorraine to start public...

Episode 295 From the Silver Screen to Self-Discovery with Walker Kimberly Brandt (Part 2)

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

John continues his conversation with Walker Kimberly Brandt. In this episode, they discuss how forgiveness sets you free, improvisational cooking, and Walker’s journey from acting and modeling to speaking and coaching. In Part 1, Walker shares her backstory, her faith journey, and why her book AWAKEN: Discovering Yourself Through the Light of Your Innocence is so important to her. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Part 1 recap [01:18] - Forgiveness is for you, not them [02:56] - AM vs FM radio analogy [04:33] - Finding your inner frequency & listening to your true...

Episode 294 From the Silver Screen to Self-Discovery with Walker Kimberly Brandt (Part 1)

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

John talks with Walker Kimberly Brandt — actress, model, spokesperson, voiceover artist, coach, speaker, entrepreneur, author of AWAKEN: Discovering Yourself Through the Light of Your Innocence, and loving wife and mom. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [03:27] - God is the greatest artist [06:58] - John and Walker’s daily gratitude habit [08:52] - Walker’s background [09:38] - Meaning of “Discovering Yourself Through the Light of Your Innocence” [12:07] - What is pain? [14:29] - Flip how you see pain [16:17] - How Viktor Frankl and Nelson Mandela reframed...

Episode 293 Reaching the $5 Trillion Market of Liberty Spenders with Kurt Luidhardt (Part 2)

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

John and Kurt continue their conversation. In this episode, they discuss how strong relationships help in both business and family life, why it’s important for entrepreneurs to be good on camera, the value of personal branding, and how Kurt’s company uses data to help businesses and political campaigns. In Part 1, they talked about Kurt’s journey into political campaigns, how he built a successful fundraising company, and Liberty Spenders. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Recap of Part 1 [01:22] - Advice to entrepreneurs about being camera-ready [04:00] - “You are the...

Episode 292 Reaching the $5 Trillion Market of Liberty Spenders with Kurt Luidhardt (Part 1)

Relationships & Revenue Podcast

Episode 292 Reaching the $5 Trillion Market of Liberty Spenders with Kurt Luidhardt (Part 1) John talks with Kurt Luidhardt — CEO of The Prosper Group (an Inc. 500 fastest-growing company) and founder of Mustard Seed Interactive, expert in Liberty Spenders market segment, author of Liberty Spenders: How to Reach the $5 Trillion Market of High-Value, Conservative or Faith-Based Clients to Grow Your Business, loving husband and father. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [01:11] - A little talk about sports and celebrity news [05:04] - Kurt’s bio and backstory [08:23]...

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John talks with Dr. Jen Fry — TEDx speaker, tech founder, educator, author of “I Said NO: How to Have a Backbone and Boundaries Without Being a Jerk”, former NCAA Division I volleyball coach with 15 years of experience at various competitive levels, Sports Geographer with a PhD focusing on the racial experiences of professional Black female volleyball players in Europe, and proud cat parent.

Listen to this episode to learn more:

[00:00] - Intro

[00:42] - Dr. Jen Fry’s bio

[02:16] - What is Sports Geography?

[05:09] - How difficult transitions can be

[07:21] - Dr. Jen’s decision to leave coaching and try something new

[12:23] - Men should never feel ashamed to cry or show emotions

[14:43] - The reality of entrepreneurship

[15:03] - No shortcut to get rich

[18:26] - Young people often expect big pay without experience

[20:06] - Importance of relationships for good leadership

[22:19] - Challenges to becoming a speaker

[25:00] - How John connects with the audience even after an event

[27:14] - How speaking about handling conflicts became her main focus

[31:34] - Dr. Jen’s firm: JenFryTalks

[32:18] - I Said NO book

[36:54] - How Dr. Jen’s book’s title and subtitle evolved

[39:22] - Entrepreneurial journey

[41:41] - The impact of Dr. Jen’s relationships on her business

[44:27] - How to find your purpose

[47:52] - Dr. Jen’s definition of success

[50:30] - Traits of a great leader

[51:49] - #1 daily habit

[53:47] - Closing thoughts

NOTABLE QUOTES:

“Men deserve to cry for missing someone. And if someone doesn’t think that’s manly, then they need to figure out what’s wrong in their lives, that they don’t think missing someone who was a central part of your life should be done.”

“If you think crying for missing someone is not manly, then go find somewhere to hold on to your tears — and end up blowing up like a crazy person, punching walls.”

“When it comes to being an entrepreneur, I tell people it’s a wonderful life. It can be an amazing thing, but you need to understand upfront that you’re going to exchange 40 hours a week for 80 to 100 and make almost nothing for a long time. You’ll get there. It just takes a while.”

“There is no shortcut to not only making money, but making repeatable, consistent money.”

“If we can manage conflict better, we’ll be better humans, because conflict is a mental health imperative. Conflict eats away at our brains because of what family and society have taught us about how to navigate it.”

“Conflict shows us the depth of our relationships.”

“When you catch yourself spiraling into worry, pause, because if you look back, life has never abandoned you. Even in the hardest moments, you found a way through. Faith is a reminder that you don’t need every answer to keep moving forward. You just need to trust that you’ll be carried, as you’ve always been.”

USEFUL RESOURCES:

https://jenfrytalks.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenfry13/

https://www.instagram.com/jenfrytalks

https://www.facebook.com/jenfrytalks

https://x.com/jenfrytalks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvVIRx1ejz0&t=1s

I Said NO: How to Have a Backbone and Boundaries Without Being a Jerk (https://a.co/d/gbKj8EO)

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