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Modern Buyer Journey Demands New Lead Generation Approaches with Zach Jones | Ep. 302

The Modern Selling Podcast

Release Date: 07/04/2025

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In today's rapidly evolving sales landscape, lead generation remains a top priority for Chief Revenue Officers and sales leaders. But with the rise of AI, changing buyer behaviors, and an overwhelming array of tools and technologies, how can sales teams effectively navigate this complex terrain?

In this episode of the Modern Selling Podcast, I sit down with Zach Jones, Chief Revenue Officer at TechnologyAdvice, to explore the cutting-edge strategies and tools that are reshaping the lead generation game. With over a decade of experience in scaling sales teams and driving revenue growth, Zach offers invaluable insights into the current state of B2B sales and marketing.

Adapting to the New B2B Buyer Journey

One of the most significant shifts we discuss is the changing nature of the B2B buyer journey. Zach highlights that:

  • 75% of the buyer journey now happens before someone wants to talk to sales
  • 86% of buyers start with a shortlist of vendors
  • 92% of purchases come from that initial shortlist

This means that awareness and early education are more critical than ever. Sales and marketing teams need to focus on getting on that shortlist through strategic content placement and engagement across various channels.

The Rise of AI in Sales and Marketing

Artificial Intelligence is not just a buzzword – it's reshaping how we approach lead generation and engagement. Zach shares eye-opening statistic:

  • There's been a 240% increase in page views from ChatGPT to their websites since January

This shift towards AI-driven content creation and research is changing how buyers find and evaluate vendors. Sales teams need to adapt their strategies to ensure they're visible and relevant in this new AI-powered landscape.

From Funnel to Rooms: A New Perspective on Lead Nurturing

Zach introduces an interesting concept of thinking about lead nurturing not as a funnel, but as two rooms:

  • Prospects who are ready to talk to a vendor
  • Prospects who are not ready

The key is figuring out how to move prospects from the "not ready" room to the "ready" room. This approach requires a more dynamic and personalized marketing strategy, leveraging AI and intent data to create tailored experiences for each prospect.

Actionable Takeaways for Sales Leaders

  • Experiment with new technologies and strategies – don't be afraid to break things
  • Focus on niching down and segmenting your audience for more personalized outreach
  • Leverage AI tools to level the playing field and enhance your team's capabilities
  • Align your sales and marketing strategies based on your target market and how they buy
  • Consider implementing an Account-Based Experience (ABX) approach for enterprise sales

As the B2B sales landscape continues to evolve, staying ahead of the curve is crucial. By embracing new technologies, focusing on personalization, and adapting to changing buyer behaviors, sales teams can position themselves for success in this dynamic environment.

Timestamped Summary of this Episode:

00:00:00
The Rise of AI in Content Creation
AI tools like ChatGPT are becoming increasingly popular for content creation and personalization. Marketers are focusing on delivering more relevant, timely messages to smaller, engaged audiences rather than high volume outreach. The shift towards AI-driven personalization is changing how companies approach lead generation and engagement.

00:01:07
Introducing Zach Jones: CRO of TechnologyAdvice
Zach Jones, Chief Revenue Officer at TechnologyAdvice, shares his background and the company's role in connecting tech marketers with B2B buyers. TechnologyAdvice operates multiple digital media properties and offers services like content creation, digital advertising, lead generation, and buyer intent intelligence. 

00:03:27
From Punk Pop to B2B Sales: Zach's Surprising Past
Zach reveals his unexpected background as the frontman of a punk pop band in college. This experience, while not impressing his future wife, showcases Zach's diverse background before entering the B2B sales and marketing world.

00:05:19
Evolving Lead Generation Landscape
The lead generation landscape is shifting due to economic changes and emerging technologies. Key trends include niching down to target smaller, engaged audiences, leveraging AI for personalization, and adapting to the changing demographics of B2B buyers, with millennials and Gen Z now dominating.

00:08:18
Adapting to Modern Buyer Journeys
Marketing and sales teams are adapting to new buyer journeys by embracing diverse media channels like podcasts, YouTube, and newsletters. The focus is on meeting buyers where they are and providing relevant content throughout their decision-making process, rather than relying solely on traditional lead generation methods.

00:10:11
Effective Sales and Marketing Tools
While some companies are cutting back on tools, certain platforms like Sixth Sense and ZoomInfo continue to deliver ROI. The trend is moving towards efficiency and proven value rather than accumulating multiple tools. New opportunities in forums, Reddit, and connected TV are emerging as ways to engage buyers.

00:12:50
Key Metrics for Evaluating Tools
CROs should prioritize usage and adoption rates when evaluating tools. Pipeline generation and productivity improvements are also crucial metrics. The focus should be on how tools increase efficiency and drive tangible results rather than just adding more features.

00:17:37
Intent Data and Personalized Engagement
Leveraging intent data and behavioral analytics is crucial for identifying and engaging high-potential leads early in the buyer's journey. TechnologyAdvice is developing an AI-driven "intent to lead" model that creates personalized, timely outreach based on prospect behavior across their ecosystem.

00:32:40
Rethinking the Sales Funnel
The traditional sales funnel concept is evolving into a two-room model: prospects are either ready to talk to a vendor or they're not. The focus is on moving prospects from "not ready" to "ready" through personalized, dynamic marketing across various channels and touchpoints.

00:36:42
Tailoring Strategies to Audiences and Verticals
There's no one-size-fits-all approach to sales and marketing strategies. Leaders must consider factors like product type, sales motion, and target market to determine the most effective channels and tactics. Account-based experience (ABX) is becoming increasingly important for enterprise sales.

00:40:18
Advice for CROs: Experiment and Personalize
CROs should focus on testing new approaches, leveraging AI, and personalizing experiences for target accounts. The key is to be willing to experiment, niche down, and use available tools effectively to stand out in a competitive landscape.

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