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AI an important tool for small business marketing, but it can’t replace relationships and trust

The Small Business Association of Michigan’s Small Business Weekly Podcast

Release Date: 02/17/2026

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The Small Business Association of Michigan’s Small Business Weekly Podcast

On today’s program, Michael Rogers talks with Tom Damitio, partner in Roots Marketing of Grand Rapids and a VIP member of the Small Business Association of Michigan. He discusses their approach to helping businesses grow through effective marketing strategies. Roots Marketing focuses on SEO, digital ads, web strategy, content, and print materials, emphasizing a tailored, measurable approach that involves continuous refinement and adaptation. Damitio also acknowledges the role of AI in enhancing marketing efficiency but stresses that human strategy and understanding remain crucial. “It's a...

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The Small Business Association of Michigan’s Small Business Weekly Podcast

On today’s program, Michael Rogers talks with SBAM leader Paul Santoro, owner of the 876 Baldwin Restaurant, located in Baldwin in west Michigan. Inspired by his love for fly fishing, he established the restaurant in a renovated Masonic temple, featuring a 16-seat bar and three apartments. Santoro emphasizes the restaurant's role in economic development and community engagement, highlighting local natural resources and heritage through unique decor and community events. “We are attempting to use the restaurant and its emphasis on economic development to really change the economic landscape...

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The Small Business Association of Michigan’s Small Business Weekly Podcast

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On today’s program, Michael Rogers talks with SBAM leader Mark Hamilton, founder of Versa Culture in Grand Rapids (He can be contacted via LinkedIn at , and by email at .) His company helps small and mid-sized organizations improve execution by defining and reinforcing company culture. Hamilton emphasizes the importance of clear decision-making, especially under pressure, and the need for leaders to set boundaries and accountability. “What good looks like, what is the standard people are being held to,” he says. “What do they need to achieve in their day-to day-behaviors, not just...

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On today’s program, Michael Rogers talks with SBAM leader Chip LaFleur, CEO of Lafleur Marketing in Grand Rapids. He discusses the company's transition from a traditional marketing firm to a growth insights agency and highlights the challenges small businesses face due to economic uncertainty and rapid technological changes, particularly AI, which has both expedited and complicated marketing strategies. “You have to build a relationship to establish trust,” he says. “You have to have the trust before you start sharing ideas around how to make your business successful, how to grow your...

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On today’s program, Michael Rogers talks with SBAM leader Chip LaFleur, CEO of Lafleur Marketing in Grand Rapids. He discusses the company's transition from a traditional marketing firm to a growth insights agency and highlights the challenges small businesses face due to economic uncertainty and rapid technological changes, particularly AI, which has both expedited and complicated marketing strategies. “You have to build a relationship to establish trust,” he says. “You have to have the trust before you start sharing ideas around how to make your business successful, how to grow your organization, and things like that. AI can, in some ways, help us to capture ideas, and sometimes those ideas inform the relationships a little bit, but it's still a tool in the toolbox.”

The Small Business Association of Michigan is the only statewide and state-based association that focuses solely on serving the needs of Michigan’s small business community. We have been successfully serving small businesses like yours in all 83 counties of Michigan since 1969. We’re located in Lansing, just one block from the Capitol.

Our mission is to help Michigan small businesses succeed by promoting entrepreneurship, leveraging buying power and engaging in political advocacy. When small businesses band together through the Small Business Association of Michigan, they achieve more than they could on their own. 

Our 32,000 members are as diverse as Michigan's economy. From accountants to appliance stores, manufacturers to medical, and restaurants to retailers, what unites the SBAM membership is the spirit of entrepreneurship…a spirit that drove you to start and continue to operate your own business because you believe you can do something better than anyone else is doing it!

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